I'm honestly not sure where we went so wrong as a society so as to reach this point. Whether it's overzealous AI or the AMPification of the web. Google act with impunity and without remorse, every action designed to further their goals and agendas without respect to humans caught in the crossfire. If Google can, without due process and fair warning, remove your existence then this is a power that should be delegated…
Don't use third party auth to sign in
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#132I'm honestly not sure where we went so wrong as a society so as to reach this point. Whether it's overzealous AI or the AMPification of the web. Google act with impunity and without remorse, every action designed to further their goals and agendas without respect to humans caught in the crossfire. If Google can, without due process and fair warning, remove your existence then this is a power that should be delegated…
At every point, google users are asked to acknowledge the EULA and TOS. They're being told that google can stop their service for any reason, including that service not being comercially viable. ( I.E. Any Reason )
Access to google services isn't a right. It never was, unlike the property rights you're drawing a false equivalency with.
Re: Don't use third party auth to sign in
#133I'm honestly not sure where we went so wrong as a society so as to reach this point. Whether it's overzealous AI or the AMPification of the web. Google act with impunity and without remorse, every action designed to further their goals and agendas without respect to humans caught in the crossfire. If Google can, without due process and fair warning, remove your existence then this is a power that should be delegated…
(Roughly. I am not a lawyer.)
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, and it bothers me a lot, even if it's in an iframe, that it has my real name from my Gmail account inside the unrelated third party pages. I do not trust Javascript iframe policies from preventing the host sites of exfiltrating my name from the Google signin frame. Javascript and browser exploits have a long history. This uBlock Origin rule blocks the popups at least: ##iframe[src*="accounts.google.com/gsi"]
If there was a bug that let websites read from unrelated iframes then they could just open the iframes themselves.
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#135Re: Don't use third party auth to sign in
#136I'm honestly not sure where we went so wrong as a society so as to reach this point. Whether it's overzealous AI or the AMPification of the web. Google act with impunity and without remorse, every action designed to further their goals and agendas without respect to humans caught in the crossfire. If Google can, without due process and fair warning, remove your existence then this is a power that should be delegated…
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#137Good point, but if Google suspends my account I've got bigger things to worry about than the dozens of sites I've used once or twice a year. Paying for your own domain also comes with its own troubles. If you're not using Google (or some other service) as your mail forwarder, good luck being able to email anyone. Stealing you custom domain is also a real possibility, and negates your investment in Gmail 2FA.
How could my domain be stolen? :O
Re: Don't use third party auth to sign in
#138I'm honestly not sure where we went so wrong as a society so as to reach this point. Whether it's overzealous AI or the AMPification of the web. Google act with impunity and without remorse, every action designed to further their goals and agendas without respect to humans caught in the crossfire. If Google can, without due process and fair warning, remove your existence then this is a power that should be delegated…
Legal services can get involved just fine if you file suit. You'll just have to establish that Google owed a duty to you (by contract or otherwise) and that you were harmed by their breach of that duty. (Roughly. I am not a lawyer.)
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#139> Every respectable service allows you to create accounts using your email address This way I should maintain my own email server, because I can be locked out of my email by any of cloud providers as easy.
Would(n't) just having your own domain and pointing it at an email server one doesn't directly manage work?
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#140There does seem to be a need for Google to clarify their rules for "banning" an email used for sign-in. It seems like things should be more granular, such that being banned on YouTube doesn't make your thermostat quit working, ruin your phone contacts/photos/etc, or cut you off from your unspent AdWords funds.