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The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

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Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

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The fact that one high-caliber bullet can shut down a multi-billion dollar transport system is all that needs to be said. It's a silly idea and is best made on the Moon or Mars where atmospheric pressure is already low enough to not cause catastrophic failure.

Incidentally, regular trains getting shot at in America is not uncommon. Apparently Boeing has to check fuselages shipped by rail for bullet holes, because that happens..

Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

#52

I read the entire article just to find its underlying foundation rearing its ugly head near its end: > Maybe we’ll even have a line in the U.S. that Wall Street execs and DC lobbyists will use to blast up and down the Eastern Seaboard for business lunches. But you and me? We’ll be stuck on dilapidated Amtrak lines[...] > our only consolation the fact that the hyperloop’s vacuum-sealed tubes don’t have windows, so its…

>When and where did this line of thought of "it's better for everyone to stay the same than everyone get better if some people get better by a bigger amount" started being socially acceptable within grown adults?

That's not at all what the author is saying. He's arguing that it would be better, easier, and provide more value for more people if instead of things like Hyperloops we invested in high speed rail. If you've ever been to the US you'll know the transport infrastructure is TERRIBLE. Compared to Europe (and from the reading the article, Japan too it seems) American public transport is embarrassing; rusty diesel locomotives and pot holed roads. Having a high speed rail network in America would most certainly not be keeping everything the same.

Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

#53

I read the entire article just to find its underlying foundation rearing its ugly head near its end: > Maybe we’ll even have a line in the U.S. that Wall Street execs and DC lobbyists will use to blast up and down the Eastern Seaboard for business lunches. But you and me? We’ll be stuck on dilapidated Amtrak lines[...] > our only consolation the fact that the hyperloop’s vacuum-sealed tubes don’t have windows, so its…

> "it's better for everyone to stay the same than everyone get better if some people get better by a bigger amount"

I think this falls down because things aren’t getting better, at least in the US. People are less likely to own a house than their parents were at their age, minimum wage hasn’t increased in line with inflation and has therefore effectively decreased, higher education is more expensive etc.

And then you see people who profit off of making things worse buying their third house and you start to think it’s not exactly fair.

Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

#54

I read the entire article just to find its underlying foundation rearing its ugly head near its end: > Maybe we’ll even have a line in the U.S. that Wall Street execs and DC lobbyists will use to blast up and down the Eastern Seaboard for business lunches. But you and me? We’ll be stuck on dilapidated Amtrak lines[...] > our only consolation the fact that the hyperloop’s vacuum-sealed tubes don’t have windows, so its…

When do you anticipate electric vehicles will become mainstream in your country?

My brother lives in India and apparently there is a local brand of electric scooters. Very cool, imho. Lots of two wheelers in India, so it makes sense that happens first.

Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

#55
post #48

Maybe that capitalist hellscape will add solar freakin' roadways while they're at it.

More solar is good, but we have space for it elsewhere. It's cheaper and easier to have roads be "plain old roads".

I think that's the point. The 'technology' seems optimized for creating hype on reddit, not actually being commercially viable.

Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

#56

I read the entire article just to find its underlying foundation rearing its ugly head near its end: > Maybe we’ll even have a line in the U.S. that Wall Street execs and DC lobbyists will use to blast up and down the Eastern Seaboard for business lunches. But you and me? We’ll be stuck on dilapidated Amtrak lines[...] > our only consolation the fact that the hyperloop’s vacuum-sealed tubes don’t have windows, so its…

When do you anticipate electric vehicles will become mainstream in your country?

Within 5 to 15 years I would guess, depending on the moment cheaper batteries materialize at scale and/or the tax system either benefits EVs or penalizes ICEs.

Taxis and buses are already starting to use EVs due to tax subsidies for businesses so we know that reducing taxes works, but even with our currently "slightly less statist than average" government that's a long shot for regular people to get the same benefits anytime soon. This is in Uruguay FWIW.

Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

#57

I read the entire article just to find its underlying foundation rearing its ugly head near its end: > Maybe we’ll even have a line in the U.S. that Wall Street execs and DC lobbyists will use to blast up and down the Eastern Seaboard for business lunches. But you and me? We’ll be stuck on dilapidated Amtrak lines[...] > our only consolation the fact that the hyperloop’s vacuum-sealed tubes don’t have windows, so its…

I know right? I work hard and do well for my family, but I know there are folks who have much higher incomes and wealth and enjoy much more privileges. Some of them have earned it and some haven't. I spend zero percent of my life being upset about this. Why do so many young people in basically my same life station fret about it so very much? It seems very toddlerish, to be so upset just because you saw someone with a…

It’s not greed and looking up it’s empathy and looking down.

Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

#58

Many years ago, when Hyperloop's design was first announced, tlb pointed out that steel expands during summer, and that the expansion from SF to LA was roughly 400m (if I remember correctly) over a so-and-so temperature difference during summer. Where does the steel go? I'm not sure there's been a satisfactory answer to that question. Expansion joints are very hard when you need to maintain a vacuum.

This isn't actually a problem! We build gas pipelines all the time which suffer exactly the same problem. (and no, you don't want gas pipelines to leak!) You can use expansion joints, or grooved couplings that enable movement, and there are other solutions as well. I think the problem that people have is that they assume you need some really intense vacuum for hyperloop to work. .05 bar (the pressure at 60,000 ft) is…

Normal pipelines handle large amounts of thermal expansion in a way fundamentally incompatible with hyperloops: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-oil-pipelines-have-so-many-seem...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=expansion+loop&iax=images&ia=image...

Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

#59
post #4

Is public money going toward this? If not, why do you care how a private individual uses their money?

Personally, I care because it diverts attention and thrust from developing proven alternatives to air travel, such as HSR. When something that big hinges on a narrow swing in public opinion, and someone starts dangling a pie in the sky idea, the result can be abandonment of the main idea, at the service of an unlikely moonshot by a big ego.

I don't see HSR as a good alternative to air travel in a country as spread out as the US. a proper HSR route for the northeast corridor would be great; it's kind of ridiculous that a plane is the best way to get from boston to DC. when you start looking at traversing entire coasts, it's really hard for a train to compete with air travel. a non-stop flight from seattle to LA takes about two and a half hours, plus all the security nonsense. at 200mph, a train that makes zero stops would take about six hours. once you factor in travel to/from the airport and security, that's actually not too bad, but nonstop train routes are uncommon. the situation is even worse for cross-country flights. NY to LA is about six hours by plane; it would be about fourteen hours on a (highly unlikely) nonstop train.

frankly (as an east-coaster) I would be happy just to see the existing rail lines be price competitive with airlines. I greatly prefer traveling by train, and I would be willing to accept a longer transit time if it were not both slower and more expensive.

Re: The Hyperloop’s Only Destination Is a Capitalist Hellscape

#60
>It’s entirely possible that in our lifetimes the oil and gas billionaires in Saudi Arabia will be able to shoot themselves in tiny designer-branded pods with heated leather seats from one side of the Kingdom to the other.

I can see the Louis Vitton seats from here.

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