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[1] https://www.lawfareblog.com/2020-election-security-success-s...
[2] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/11/2020-was-a-se...
Was there a reason CISA needed to release a statement? I haven't seen anything controversial in the news. As they say, if you have to say it... I have a few comments going back a couple of years predicting how electronic voting will cause civil unrest because it is so vulnerable to being discredited. Edward Snowden even recently tweeted a prof's video about the same thing. Everybody who had given the issue any seriou…
It has been all over the news in the US of trump claiming voter fraud. Apnews fact check has been full of the debunked claims in the last few days. https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-ap-fact-check-joe-b... https://apnews.com/article/ap-fact-check-election-dead-voter... https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-tr... https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-us-news-m... https://apnews.c…
If you are interested in the issues, of course there is no limit to the depth of the rabbit hole you can run down, but the media position here has been its usual expression of disgust for anything outside its perceived status quo. Mainstream news is like listening to teenagers reading out texts from their dad with eyerolls.
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But it still doesn’t answer the question - in Canada we count all the ballots the same day BY HAND. Why is this so hard in the US? The only thing that I can think of is that your elections staff are grossly under-allocated?
Another possible factor is that US elections generally see far more races on the ballot. In my ballot this year, I had to vote for US President, US House, US Senate, State House, State Senate, Councillor, Register of Probate, and three referendums. That's actually a pretty light ballot; in the past, I've also had to vote for races such as County Auditor, Recorder of Deeds, County Clerk, Soil & Water Conservation Dist…
I sometimes wish we had a separate federal / state / county / town vote to keep the practice up and reduce the overhead of individual voting periods.
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Sure, here's the source. [1] [1] https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/spalding-county-experiencin... "vendor for the machines notified them at 7:05 a.m. that there was a problem with an overnight update to the system" "They just said it was a glitch in the system"
I can't speak to this particular situation but it's worth noting that last-minute-just-before-polling-begins updates are the norm and happen pretty much every election. In/around my hometown, for example, the voting machines are "securely" stored in between elections, until just before an election, when they get 'em out to set them up, test them, etc. Whether they installed updates an hour before an electiion or two…
Firmware updates should be done by the election officials, not the company. If my mom can update her router firmware, then I think an election official can do it.
The fact that remote updates are even possible point to a much, much bigger problem. Do we really believe the devs working for Dominion (or whatever company) can outsmart the elite teams working for nation-state intelligence services?
Also, this software should be open source and auditable by any concerned citizen.
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I don't think it's true. Democrats still don't like the electoral college even when they win. The real margin in this election would be over 5 million instead of the hundred of thousands if the EC didn't exist. And in this case the Republican claims of misnformation and conspiracy have seemed so outlandish and baseless it's hard to take any of them seriously. Like videos of ballots being burned, that turned out to be…
The problem is that the well is completely poisoned. There are some interesting claims, and some ridiculous ones, and nobody has time to develop an informed opinion on all of them so you just find a few examples which support your priors.
NYT talked to every states election officials and not a single one could report large scale voting fraud, certainly not enough to affect this year's presidential election.
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I can't speak to this particular situation but it's worth noting that last-minute-just-before-polling-begins updates are the norm and happen pretty much every election. In/around my hometown, for example, the voting machines are "securely" stored in between elections, until just before an election, when they get 'em out to set them up, test them, etc. Whether they installed updates an hour before an electiion or two…
We should trust them more because the repo is still being maintained? Its probably easy for us to think from where we are sitting that counting votes must be one hell of an easy application to write. Let me try.... ah yes, it indeed was very easy. The funny about ones ignorance is that one doesn't notice it even when one notices it. Assuming it was a legitimate update I wonder what that dude felt like when he realize…
Yes. It's very wrong, and possibly fraudulent, but I suspect more likely someone screwed up (or possibly a vuln was found). Likely someone had a cold chill down their spine when they realized what was needed.
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Sure, here's the source. [1] [1] https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/spalding-county-experiencin... "vendor for the machines notified them at 7:05 a.m. that there was a problem with an overnight update to the system" "They just said it was a glitch in the system"
It's a joke to believe these systems are secure at all. We saw with Stuxnet how air gapped nuclear reactors could be hacked with USB drives. It's patently absurd. Even if you do test the equipment, there could be sleeper code that only runs on election day. It's absolutely nuts that we trust anything other than ink and paper with a fingerprint and signature.
This is the only way for secure elections.
Eight states[0] still have electronic voting systems without paper backups. They're un-auditable. I'm not going to weigh in on the current politics of this situation, but US Election security is awful, now, and since at least 2000. I actually did my degree thesis on designing electronic voting systems (and built one), and ultimately concluded it was impossible to make them fully secure. The best you can do is paper b…
Layers, more of them, help to secure a system.
On what basis? Because there aren't any rumors of Russian meddling being sowed by the opposition this time? There are multiple states with no paper audit trail, closed source electronic voting machines, multiple dubious last-minute decisions made around postal ballots due to COVID, no easy way to verify the voter roll. Making a claim like this reeks of partisanship.
Ah, yes, CISA, that noted partisan Democrat-loving group:
> The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) was established on November 16, 2018 when President Donald Trump signed into law the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency Act of 2018 [..] > On November 13, the United States House of Representatives voted unanimously to pass legislation creating the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
Very partisan, assuming you accept that the Democrats and Republicans are one party.
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> You go online with your private receipt number and it can validate your vote. What precisely do you mean by "validate" here? Would this scheme make the ballot non-secret?
If each ballot has a unique ID and there is no association between the person voting and the ID, then the voter can retain that number, possibly by tearing off a section of the ballot as is done in CA, and check that number online to verify their vote was tallied as expected.