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Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

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Re: Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

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More sleep time is critical for preventing depression period. It is not rocket science. Everyone can tell from their own person experience. Now it could be sometime when one is depressed one can't sleep. However, sleep pretty much helps every many things.

this is the reason why I think tech company ought to let employee sleep whenever they want as long as they want at work (not at meetings of course, although that is tempting sometimes), as long as they get their work done on time.

When I work for myself, I nap at the slightest sensation of drowsiness. I’m not productive nor efficient while sleepy. Yet I’ve wasted so many hours in mindless stupor for my employers (especially after lunch) because napping on the clock is taboo.

Re: Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

#12

More sleep time is critical for preventing depression period. It is not rocket science. Everyone can tell from their own person experience. Now it could be sometime when one is depressed one can't sleep. However, sleep pretty much helps every many things.

this is the reason why I think tech company ought to let employee sleep whenever they want as long as they want at work (not at meetings of course, although that is tempting sometimes), as long as they get their work done on time.

I can't tell you how many times I wished there were "sleep rooms" in our university to wind down in afternoons and get refreshed for more study and work.

They should at least offer them for PhD students who spend most their life in office.

Re: Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

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I don’t know. I feel like screen time is a misnomer. From my anecdata less social media more sleep is the key. If my screen time is reading a kindle or learning programming I doubt the impact is so bad. Of course anything taken to an extreme...

This is what something like a kindle shines. That isn’t such a bad form of screen time. Other devices are dangerous for me because, well, here I am on HN rather than preparing for my day. If I picked up my kindle instead I wouldn’t be on HN.

Re: Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

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Lately I have been doing my best to limit my "optional" screen time (optional meaning anything that is not for work and school). I fingered though Cal Newport's "Digital minimalism" [1] about a month and a half ago and decided to try out the 30 days tech fast in the book. The idea is to use this time to reset your relationship with tech and to really figure out what you value and what you are trying to accomplish with your tech habits. If other people are like me and struggle with compulsiveness with using the internet and computers, I recommend giving it a shot.

[1] https://www.samuelthomasdavies.com/book-summaries/business/d...

Re: Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

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The paper Multiple lifestyle factors and depressed mood: a cross-sectional and longitudinal analysis of the UK Biobank (N = 84,860) [1]. The study compares questionnaire results of healthy controls (HC) to people with a history of major depressive disorder (MDD):

> Cross-sectional analysis of 84,860 participants showed that in both MDD and HCs, physical activity, healthy diet, and optimal sleep duration were associated with less frequency of depressed mood (all p This is correlation; it does not measure whether lifestyle interventions improve depressed mood.

[1] https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s1291...

Re: Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

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post #9

More sleep time is critical for preventing depression period. It is not rocket science. Everyone can tell from their own person experience. Now it could be sometime when one is depressed one can't sleep. However, sleep pretty much helps every many things.

But not too much. I used to sleep 10-12 hours during depressive episodes when I had nothing important to do, it just makes things worse. Over 7-8 hours of sleep just makes me tired and sleepy the whole day (paradoxical, yeah). Forcing a limit helps a lot more.

The article seems to agree with you - it presents optimal sleep as important, 7 - 9 hours.

Re: Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

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post #5

Not all screen time is the same and it’s far beyond time for us to stop equivocating Facebook/Instagram and other social media nastiness with all the positive things that can be done on a screen. It confuses people, and as we stare down another quarantine and a long cold winter telling people to spend less time with what could be their only contact to the outside world can be actively harmful.

you're commenting on a study with what sounds like an opinion that feels right to you. maybe it's not just about social media vs "positive" activities. some of it may be related to screen addiction and inability to focus due to externals stimuli. any unhealthy habit could have a configuration where its not as unhealthy to some people, but it doesn't mean the study is "confusing people"

Re: Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

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I intuitively agree that optimal sleep and exercise and diet and screen time probably make a difference to wellbeing, but am I alone in thinking that trying to determine a "link" between these things is lazy, easy, obvious and just wholly inadequate?

We want to know, definitively, what are causes and effects. I appreciate that's hard. But why waste so much time and money just trying to establish "links" which are fundamentally just correlations.

It's like admitting causation is hard, just aim instead for correlation - and call it quits after getting some headlines and maybe more funding...

Re: Less screen time and more sleep critical for preventing depression

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It's not entirely clear to me from reading the points in this article and skimming the paper that they are able to control the direction of causality for this. That is the question as to whether or not "healthy" activity prevents depression or if depression causes us to reduce our healthy activity (and increase our unhealthy ones).

The pandemic has been a great experiment in this and has me starting to think that many of these studies might have the causal arrow wrong. I absolutely spent less time on the screen, ran more often, drank much less and slept better immediately before the pandemic.

Running as an example became much harder to do emotionally after the a few months of the stress induced by the pandemic. The lack of other runners out there seemed to confirm that other people were also feeling this impact.

I spend more time glued to the screen "doom scrolling" and you can bet my drinking is up as well.

But it's certainly not like all of these behaviors happened and then stress set in (in this case I wouldn't say "depressed" as much as "stressed", ironically I'm probably the least depressed that I've been in years).

It seems to me much more likely that compulsive behaviors in general, and in this case especially the example of screen time are produced by the depression rather than it's causes.

Certainly there is the possibility of positive feed backs: depression causes excessive drinking which unchecked can clearly lead to more depression. Same goes for screen time, sleep etc.

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