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Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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Nows the time to purchase that Dell r720xd and install TrueNAS on it. The software is mature and the hardware is up for a steal pre-owned. https://twitter.com/RussellBal/status/1323778579273043968

I can tell you from personal experience that r720xd are VERY LOUD and use a huge amount of power 200-300W!

If that isn't a problem then go for it, they last forever in my experience.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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post #5

> Anil Sabharwal, Google Photos’ then-head, said in a blog post when the service launched in 2015. “And when we say a lifetime of memories, we really mean it.” Most of Google’s product strategy has been bait & switch, and I saythat with all due to respect to the engineers. It’s the leaders who make these decisions

They are not changing down the service, merely changing the price for it. A price increase after 5 years of service can hardly be considered "bait and switch". We need to remember that $0 is still a price.

If $0 is a price, Google is increasing the price by an excessive infinity%.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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You could argue that all hyper growth “build it and they will come” types of companies do this bait and switch. It’s inherent to the startup culture that emphasizes capturing users above earning profit in the early stages of a company. Think about how many VC-backed companies offer services at discounted rates today in hopes of being able charge higher rates for that service in the future. This is endemic to tech gen…

That isn't just a tech thing either. Look at "new and improved formulas" or other companies which after they develop a good reputation piss it away cutting corners. Google has the ultimate smartass retort to justify it to critics especially if they are on Capital Hill. "I thought it was considered unfair competition now to provide something others can't now because we are apparently 'too big' now."

> Look at "new and improved formulas" or other companies which after they develop a good reputation piss it away cutting corners.

MBAs have "optimized" the flavor out of everything with their little spreadsheets and graphs and quarterly earnings reports. I can't go to a chain restaurant anymore.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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Most will agree that the offer is reasonable. But is that good enough, in this case? Should it be legal to front-load your business by promising something, and then going back on that (not because you have to, but because you change your mind)? I feel like it should not, because the competitive advantage you get by offering things for free is incredibly huge. Whenever that gets a business to a place where people will…

Such a law would basically make startups impossible. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, I think the startup culture is pretty toxic. Just an interesting result.

With one hand it would eliminate the opportunity to bait and switch, with the other it would extend a supply of users who weren't busy feasting on someone else's bait.

The real question is whether you could legislate and enforce such a law in a manner that couldn't be circumvented with simple accounting tricks.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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post #5

> Anil Sabharwal, Google Photos’ then-head, said in a blog post when the service launched in 2015. “And when we say a lifetime of memories, we really mean it.” Most of Google’s product strategy has been bait & switch, and I saythat with all due to respect to the engineers. It’s the leaders who make these decisions

A lifetime of memories offers the greatest opportunity for bait and switch "marketing". Do you think the statement you quote means that Google 5 years ago meant to make a gift to users, but then someone changed course?

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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post #159

what I want to know: why would storage prices increase when storage costs continue to plummet (and network ingress costs remain cheap due to asymmetric use vs serving) spitballing... - gphotos was free when google wanted the data for training algorithms. They now have the data they need and it's become a cost center. Given Android integration, that amount is substantial. - the paid plans are underperforming, and this…

Much like when you pay for a good meal, the majority of what you're paying for is labor. Hardware is cheap. IT departments are not.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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post #36

I honestly can't see the outrage here. Sure, they've closed their free tier, but they keep up the promise for Pixel owners and do not count images previously uploaded. That's really more than one can ask for in something they get for free .

The internet is full of entitled people. I've never seen such entitled people in real life. Unfortunately lately HN is no different. I am also an avid user of Google Photos. From my perspective, they did keep their promise. They will store your photos for free before a certain timeline. Just because someone did a favor to you for some time, that doesn't mean you are entitled to their help forever.

Yeah man, when someone says "i'll give you $5 ever day for life" and then in 5 years they say "i'm not going to do that anymore starting tomorrow" and being upset about that is such entitled behavior.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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post #73

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“private”

has Google ever made your data public?

Not private doesn't mean public.

Can google guarantee this data is not used to fuel their ad or other businesses in anyway ?

Can they guarantee US Law Enforcement Agencies(LEA) will not have access without due process and informing you ?

Can they guarantee LEAs from other countries will not given access to this data ?

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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California's unfair practices act says: "It is unlawful for any person engaged in business within this State to sell any article or product at less than the cost thereof to such vendor or to give away any article or product, for the purpose of injuring competitors or destroying competition." Could a case be made that Google did this with their free unlimited storage move?

> Could a case be made that Google did this with their free unlimited storage move?

Among other things Google has done, yes. (IANAL)

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