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Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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> To be fair, Google's pricing on storage is more than reasonable That probably depends, on whether you factor in the profit Google makes from mining your data. That should be subtracted from their operating costs and only then compared to what they charge for the storage. My guess is that they'll make quite a killing on the thing, as a whole. Even besides the morally questionable aspects (of the data mining), consid…

Is google mining photos for profit? What kind of profits are there to mine data in google photos?

Data for training neural networks?

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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If you have to start paying for photo storage, you may as well move them somewhere with better privacy.

That's what Google is organizationally unable to understand. They consider you giving them all your data to be a perfectly private thing to do. In fact, in a way, they consider themselves to be sort of guardians of your privacy, since they only look at it themselves and don't let anybody else take advantage of it. To anyone outside Google this not what "privacy" means, of course, but that's the internal mantra. I don…

> If I have to pay, I'll pay for Apple iCloud instead, since it has better integration with my devices.

If you ever, for whatever reason, stop using Apple devices, can you continue using your iCloud storage from other devices? If not, that'd be a deal breaker for me.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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That's the thing though, you don't really get it for free do you? You just pay with your privacy and data instead.

To whom do you believe google has disclosed private user photos?

Not OP but technically the FBI as a matter of public fact and obligation (child pornography in that case). Probably more "run a known hash list against it and peak manually before reporting to verify that it isn't a freak collision with a perectly innocent photograph of a cupcake" style unless reported.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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Reading into this beyond what you were intending I'd love for private data to be as regulated as money

Interesting idea... are you sure? Do you want to pay extra fees to transfer it internationally, have to deal with sanctions/etc. depending on where you're sending it, pay taxes on it when you acquire it, have a copy sent to the government if it's over 10KB of data, etc.?

Yes.. that sounds honestly perfect. Make them respect the data.

Send a copy though.. do you have to give the government 10 grand when you send 10 grand? Course not. But you would tell the government it exists if it goes anywhere

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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We benefit daily from all sorts of horrors, that's not a justification to keep doing horrors.

That's bit of a hyperbole. How is ML horror?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/14/technology/china-surveill...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/12/19/federal...

By providing ML training data, you're indirectly supporting the consolidation of power in the hands of the few who have the ability to surveil everyone and the physical might to enforce their will.

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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Charging for storage is becoming silly. Its essentially free. Storage is growing faster than humanity can fill it, and at an ever-spiraling decreasing price. It'd be like charging for windows-up or windows-down on a taxi ride.

>> essentially free Well Google is going to charge you $240 annually for a TB of storage now.

Where? I see $10 a month or $100 a year prepaid for 2 TB: https://one.google.com/u/1/storage

Re: Google Photos hooked users with free unlimited storage. Now that's changing

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To whom do you believe google has disclosed private user photos?

they're so big disclosing those photos to their algorithms is questionable privacy-wise.

If you know this is a risk, then Google certainly does.
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