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Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by eric_h »

kall wrote: post #557
debaserab2 wrote: post #369

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Genuinely curious: what are you developing that you don’t ever need the network tab?

I don‘t know, like, average SPA stuff, a lot of React. I just considered what the network tab actually is and I have of course used it before, to work on the loading speed of sites, but haven‘t done that for a while. The only performance work I‘ve done recently is with react profiler. I have never used it to inspect API requests, which I assume it can do? I‘m comfortable with Charles proxy, which is likely overkill.…

I've been using Safari as my browsing browser and Chrome as my development browser for years. Chrome's network tab is way better than Safari and their profiling tools are also very useful.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by Osiris »

ryukafalz wrote: post #624
Osiris wrote: post #604

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I switched to Linux after the TouchBar was introduced. I've been using it for work exclusively for 3 years. It crashes, hangs, and generally acts weird every day. It's not always greener on the other side. The upside is 1) total customization, 2) if there is a problem you have a lot more power to fix it. There are just a lot more problems. Here's a list of my daily Linux issues (NVIDIA driver required to use external…

4, 7, and 10 are issues I've only experienced on systems running the proprietary NVIDIA driver. The cause isn't always clear, but I've easily had the most unexplainable graphical issues/crashes on my desktop with a GTX 980 compared to any of my Intel laptops running very similar software. Tend to chalk it up to that as a result.

Unfortunately I have to use that driver to support the external monitors on my laptop because the display ports are directly wired to the nvidia GPU and the open source one doesn't work at all for me.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by m00x »

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

> - Privacy seems to be top-notch

How can you assess the privacy of the browser? Did you do tests to verify this?

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by nitrogen »

ryukafalz wrote: post #624
Osiris wrote: post #604

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I switched to Linux after the TouchBar was introduced. I've been using it for work exclusively for 3 years. It crashes, hangs, and generally acts weird every day. It's not always greener on the other side. The upside is 1) total customization, 2) if there is a problem you have a lot more power to fix it. There are just a lot more problems. Here's a list of my daily Linux issues (NVIDIA driver required to use external…

4, 7, and 10 are issues I've only experienced on systems running the proprietary NVIDIA driver. The cause isn't always clear, but I've easily had the most unexplainable graphical issues/crashes on my desktop with a GTX 980 compared to any of my Intel laptops running very similar software. Tend to chalk it up to that as a result.

The cause (on Debian/Ubuntu/etc) is often DKMS not updating the kernel module. It's often possible to find a better error message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or in dmesg (for X11; I have never used Wayland and probably won't until X11 is completely removed, so can't help you there).

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by ssvss »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #211
enriquto wrote: post #183

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> Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session This is horrifying! How do you get to have one hundred tabs, or worse, a few hundred ?

Tabs store context (history, cookies, container, etc, with tree-style tabs also parent & child tab relations) that bookmarks don't. I'm not sure about Safari (since I don't use a Mac) but on Firefox you can set up tab discarding (via extension) that unloads unused tabs. So there's a lot less incentive to use bookmarks when you can just leave a tab open forever. Really the only reason to use bookmarks instead of tabs…

>Firefox you can set up tab discarding (via extension) that unloads unused tabs

What Add-on do you use for this.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by elcritch »

Osiris wrote: post #632
ryukafalz wrote: post #624

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4, 7, and 10 are issues I've only experienced on systems running the proprietary NVIDIA driver. The cause isn't always clear, but I've easily had the most unexplainable graphical issues/crashes on my desktop with a GTX 980 compared to any of my Intel laptops running very similar software. Tend to chalk it up to that as a result.

Unfortunately I have to use that driver to support the external monitors on my laptop because the display ports are directly wired to the nvidia GPU and the open source one doesn't work at all for me.

Stuff like this is why I haven't decided. Hopefully the new Arm laptops like the Pinebook or MNT reform will (eventually) provide better integrated experience. That route would be a lighter laptop + long battery mainly to remote into an amd ryzen desktop. LTE connectivity is pretty amazing these days. Though Apple still wins for fit and polish..

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by silly-silly »

jolux wrote: post #565
djxfade wrote: post #558

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They never split from Chrome. Chrome forked WebKit into Blink because Apple's wasn't merging Google's patches

Not sure why you're getting downvoted but this is correct. KHTML -> WebKit -> Blink.

He's getting downvoted because people misunderstand what he means. Real debugging requires the xcode tools , not the built in 'web developer' garbage.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by zepto »

talentedcoin wrote: post #332
reaperducer wrote: post #308

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why should your good experience outweigh my bad one? I never said it did. I think your anecdote and my anecdote cancel each other out. But in a larger view of things, are both irrelevant to the conversation. I’ve almost 100% switched back to Windows at this point and will never bother developing on a Mac again if I can help it. So why are you even bothering to comment? But you can’t just stay on Snow Leopard forever…

I’m “bothering to comment” because I used to love using Macs and I’m disappointed at the sluggish pace of improvement or even regressions we’ve seen since Catalina. For context, I switched from Linux somewhere back around Tiger and at that time it was like a breath of fresh air — all the benefits of a Linux machine without the stuffy hardware tweaks. But lately it’s been a struggle. I’ve asked myself, why am I still…

I am in a similar boat. I’m not so worried about them dropping legacy support for things, and I’m also fairly positive about where they are going with Swift etc, but it does feel like the benefits for professional use are narrow.

Having said that, I have moved back to Linux for some things recently, and it feels like time has simply stood still or regressed.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by catach »

rsync wrote: post #306
ksec wrote: post #159

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It is great, but: 1. Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session. Not the first time this has happened to me on Safari. ( Firefox used to have this problem as well, they implemented multiple LastSession.json to combat the problem and it is basically a thing of the past. ) 2. Fav Icons meant they are no longer showing the Tab Description once you have a dozen tabs as they will shrink to Icons Size. So you either ha…

"Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session. Not the first time this has happened to me on Safari. ( Firefox used to have this problem as well, they implemented multiple LastSession.json to combat the problem and it is basically a thing of the past." Everyone has a story like this - from all of the browsers. It seems like FF behaves better in this way now, but I still do silly things like rsync my home directory…

Have you tried out: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/copy-all-tabs...

> Why, Why WHY can't we just have tabs:// ?

I expect that the vast majority of users would be entirely uninterested in the workflow you describe.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by catach »

kjakm wrote: post #521
mortenjorck wrote: post #359

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As a UX designer, when I see people using something in a way it wasn’t intended (and having a hundred tabs is clearly not how tabs were intended to be used), my question is: how is this UI failing them? I think the problem is that people generally don’t know when they’ll return to a tab, so they leave it open, and that creating a bookmark is asking too much commitment for something potentially ephemeral. A good syste…

> I think the problem is that people generally don’t know when they’ll return to a tab, so they leave it open, and that creating a bookmark is asking too much commitment for something potentially ephemeral. Safari's reading list is my solution to this. CMD+SHIFT+D adds the current tab to the reading list which is visible on a new tab page or in a side panel. Syncs across devices too. You just right click > delete to…

As someone who doesn't use Safari this just sounds like a secondary Bookmark list.
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