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Re: Ask HN: Cheap Bulk Storage?

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I'd be willing to lose 100TB at once, assuming it wasn't every day. If there were a system where it lost even 20TB/day, I'd be interested, depending on what the tradeoffs were! I'd expect that to be pretty seriously cheap to offset it. That's why I'm asking what options people know about. If you know one that is randomly lossy but cheap, I'd be REALLY curious as to what their backend is!

I'd say most of the options people have proposed are in that range. Theres no backup, no simultaneous mirroring etc, which you are paying for with s3

Hardly. Hard disk failure rates are about 1% per year. For many purposes (basically, anything where this isn't the only copy of valuable data), that's acceptable.

Amazon S3 costs around $1/gb/year. Let's say it has 0% chance of data loss Suppose I can store something without any replication. Cost drops to $0.50/gb/year, 2% chance of losing all my data. If the value of my data is less than $25/gb, it makes financial sense to go for the unreliable option.

Much of my data is worth less than $25/gb. photos, video, old mail. Storing it on RAID is a waste of money.

besides, the chance of me deleting everything by human error is often much higher than the chance of hardware failure.

and some decent portion of those failures come with advance warning, so that you can save at least some of the data.

Re: Ask HN: Cheap Bulk Storage?

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I'm surprised there aren't any services selling raw storage space. i.e. no RAID or other redundancy, no doubling as a static web-server, just a bunch of disks. So people (myself included) buy physical HDDs for local backup -- simply because every online alternative jacks up the price by maintaining 3+ copies and keeping everything permanently online.

People would lose data and then blame the provider, creating nothing but bad PR.

"if we lose your data, we'll pay you $X compensation"

I'm pretty sure you can find an X which won't cost too much, and will get most of the complaints off your back

Re: Ask HN: Cheap Bulk Storage?

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Supermicro has a 45-bay JBOD that should be under 10 cents/GB populated: http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/?chs=847 HP has a 70-bay JBOD that works out to under 30 cents/GB: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/12169-304616-3...

It's a shame that nobody has a chassis like the sun fire 4500 anymore. The closest I could find is a 5U Thinkmate STX XA48-2510 which would work out at about 32 cents/GB.
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