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Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by lern_too_spel »

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

Safari privacy is a dumpster fire that has been ignored for more than a year now. https://www.imore.com/google-engineer-says-apples-intelligen...

Also, it doesn't support clearing data upon closing the browser if you're interested in that feature.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by comex »

elcritch wrote: post #566
lexusgx wrote: post #456

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>Catalina warning nags I appreciate those nags. Those nags clued me into app behavior; I learned what apps are requesting keyboard access even when they're not in focus, for instance. Blindly trusting our apps to access our keyboards and not gradually become keyloggers is a recurring problem in our industry, it seems, so that was a very welcome change.

The nags for regular apps don’t bother me too much, but the fact that I still can’t figure out how to run GDB worries me. The old CLI overrides don’t work in Catalina anymore. I’ve only ever owned Mac laptops and I’m seriously considering switching to a Linux/arm on the next laptop. I’m fine with the lack of ability to run random apps on my iPad, but not on my computer. Big Sur apparently won’t let me run the ZFS ext…

Big Sur removed network kernel extensions (NKEs) in favor of a different API (NetworkExtension) to accomplish the same thing in userspace, but it didn't affect filesystem kernel extensions.

For GDB, the instructions on the GDB wiki should still work on Big Sur, and they actually last changed in the release before Catalina:

https://sourceware.org/gdb/wiki/PermissionsDarwin

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by jen20 »

gnachman wrote: post #347

I released iTerm2 version 3.4.0 this morning with Big Sur support. Please update because 3.3 has various issues with it.

iTerm2 is definitely the high bar for terminals! The new composer window is great, thanks!

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by jkelleyrtp »

zoid_ wrote: post #608
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

As far as I can see, there is literally no way to disable network caching via a toggle in the dev tools. This is a huge problem for me.

Next to the trashcan on the top right of the network tab, there's a button, which when hovered, "ignores the resource cache when loading resources." I think this what you're referencing.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by SimeVidas »

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

Does Safari sync user data across devices (MacBook, iPhone)? Browsing history, bookmarks, etc.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by om2 »

sweetlucipher wrote: post #483
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

The latest Safari breaks many of the WebGL demos on Shadertoy where Chrome has zero issues. I haven't investigated the reason but that could affect more than just games. TensorflowJS relies on WebGL backend for heavy model weight lifting (lots of puns)

Could you share which specific ones? In Safari 14 we changed our WebGL to be fully based on ANGLE, and that fixed more compact issues than it caused, but there may still be some bug tail which we are trying to clean up in updates.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by spopejoy »

mr_toad wrote: post #540
tobr wrote: post #337

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It’s funny how there’s a borderline moral judgement about things like this. It’s as if having many files on your desktop, emails in your inbox, unnamed layers in photoshop, or open windows or tabs or apps or whatever would say something about your character. No, to the extent that these things are even a problem at all, that’s a consequence of a design that fails to take actual human factors into account.

> It’s as if having many files on your desktop, emails in your inbox Not really. Desktop icons and email are persisted to non volatile storage. Expecting windows and tabs to persist in the exact state you left them as if they were real world objects is just not how computers work.

That's not true, many applications have moved to the "constant save" model (and games too). For instance, you never ever save in Final Cut Pro anymore (I wish ProTools would go this route). There is no reason a browser can't persist your tab state, or your window state, window positions, etc to disk continually and always relaunch with the persisted state.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by spopejoy »

hackstack wrote: post #454
gowld wrote: post #378

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History has far too many pages to browse, and doesn't have full-test search.

Correct me if I'm wrong but does not Firefox supply full-text search on your history, bookmarks, and open tabs when you type stuff in the address bar? I believe Chrome does the same?

What's more FF History window is fully searchable, to the point that I am regularly (it seems) bringing up results from years past, and have actually restored my firefox profile from Time Machine to get my history back. The location bar search is more limited than the history window search (if nothing else it's easier to browse the results.)

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by _underfl0w_ »

rsync wrote: post #306
ksec wrote: post #159

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It is great, but: 1. Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session. Not the first time this has happened to me on Safari. ( Firefox used to have this problem as well, they implemented multiple LastSession.json to combat the problem and it is basically a thing of the past. ) 2. Fav Icons meant they are no longer showing the Tab Description once you have a dozen tabs as they will shrink to Icons Size. So you either ha…

"Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session. Not the first time this has happened to me on Safari. ( Firefox used to have this problem as well, they implemented multiple LastSession.json to combat the problem and it is basically a thing of the past." Everyone has a story like this - from all of the browsers. It seems like FF behaves better in this way now, but I still do silly things like rsync my home directory…

> Why, Why WHY can't we just have tabs:// ?

That's actually a nifty feature idea, but it seems like it could be easily abused with a little client-side JS for the sake of fingerprinting or analytics, unless it's treated similarly to chrome:// urls. You could probably whip up your own small browser extension to provide a simple formatted list of tabs, though.

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