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Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by benfrain »

thiht wrote: post #166
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

Everything they said! Rendering is shockingly bad at times. Try running some transforms on SVG with CSS or WAAPI and it’s laughably bad. The dev tools are all but useless. Just simple things like adding a new prop/value to a selector declaration is horrid and often inadvertently removed a different declaration. The JS perf is great but the debugging stepper is virtually opaque with buttons with no labels and the like. Let’s not even get started on the raft of web platform features it either doesn’t have yet or has no intention of adding.

I too would like to use Safari but it’s so far behind evergreen browsers like FF and Chrome I just can’t rely on it.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by geoelectric »

saagarjha wrote: post #205
geoelectric wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hold down opt when you click the maximize button and it'll do what you want instead, and resize to cover all the area between dock and menu. Assuming you have "zoom" set in System Preferences | Dock, double-clicking the title bar does that too, I believe.

> resize to cover all the area between dock and menu That is usually not what people want; they want it to cover the screen.

What I'm describing as the "opt" behavior is the classic maximizing behavior on both Mac and Windows (except Windows doesn't have a top bar).

If you don't hide the dock/start bar it maxes to its limit, if you hide it goes to the bottom. Maybe it was unclear when I didn't mention it'll max side to side too if the bar is on the bottom. If bar is on the side it'll leave a gutter on the side.

TL;DR it's a normal maximize--doesn't cover the doc or menu bar and you can float windows in front of it since it's not full screen mode.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by brundolf »

snazz wrote: post #255
brundolf wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Music the service is fine. Apple Music the macOS app is shamefully bad. Never in my life have I used a piece of software from a major tech company that's so totally bug-ridden. It's shocking. Honestly, this may be an excellent use-case for the ability to run native iOS apps :P

The big memory leak where https://sb.music.apple.com (the web frame part of the Apple Music desktop app) would use multiple gigabytes of memory seems to have been fixed, either in 10.15.7 or the following Supplemental Update. That was my primary issue with it. Still, the iOS app is way smoother. I would appreciate if they would bring the iPad version to the Mac and add Genius Playlists.

I've had consistent UX bugs in the past with very basic pieces of functionality, like "search won't show any results until you do it twice" or "Play Later actually does the same thing as Play Next". Core functionality, trivially reproducible, really inexcusable.

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Post by xodice »

masteranza wrote: post #91

Anyone installing it on older Macs? Catalina had an improved performance compared with Mojave on my MBA 2013, but I'm hesitant about Big Sur.

Runs outstanding on both of my Broadwell based devices.

MacBook Air (11-inch, Early 2015) and iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2015).

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by cle »

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

What is it about Safari that leads to it performing better than the competitors, and why can't they seem to figure it out? Is it because Safari is using undocumented APIs that only Apple is allowed to use?

If so, that's a deal breaker for me right there.

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Post by zlsa »

bori5 wrote: post #221

I’m on Mojave still, are you able to move or hide the FaceTime dialog that appears in the upper right when making or answering a FaceTime audio call so it doesn’t block whatever is behind it such as the taskbar ?

Yes, that's now draggable.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by himinlomax »

DennisAleynikov wrote: post #227
haunter wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Comparing Phone games to desktop ones Yeah but where is the border? There are lot of games on iOS that are basically the same as on PC/consoles maybe with a different UI and lower graphics. But you get the same features and experience. You can now play GTA San Andreas on your Mac cause it was released on iOS. And it's one of the best game ever https://apps.apple.com/us/app/grand-theft-auto-san-andreas/i... Genshin I…

genshin impact basically sealed the deal for me no point buying a nintendo switch much less a proper mac. I can get by with non-apple silicon arm Chromebooks like the wonderful lenovo duet

Seal the deal? It looks like a crappy pay-to-win mobile game.

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Post by azinman2 »

pkulak wrote: post #285
lukifer wrote: post #130

Twice bitten, thrice shy. Every MacOS upgrade for the past 5+ years has been a bag of hurt: regressions in functionality and stability, annoying "features" like Notification Center and Catalina warning nags, various PITAs on fixing UNIX/dev toolchains, all for little to no benefit. I've stopped upgrading all my machines (other than security updates), unless forced by a mission-critical app or a new machine.

Same here. I eventually upgraded to a Linux distro and couldn't be happier. What finally did it for me was when I did an "ls" in a terminal after an upgrade, accidentally hit the wrong button when the OS asked for permission, and locked my terminal out of file system access. Mac OS is no longer any good for professional use, outside of media creation.

You can easily change the permissions in settings. This is a security feature.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by rch »

pkulak wrote: post #285
lukifer wrote: post #130

Twice bitten, thrice shy. Every MacOS upgrade for the past 5+ years has been a bag of hurt: regressions in functionality and stability, annoying "features" like Notification Center and Catalina warning nags, various PITAs on fixing UNIX/dev toolchains, all for little to no benefit. I've stopped upgrading all my machines (other than security updates), unless forced by a mission-critical app or a new machine.

Same here. I eventually upgraded to a Linux distro and couldn't be happier. What finally did it for me was when I did an "ls" in a terminal after an upgrade, accidentally hit the wrong button when the OS asked for permission, and locked my terminal out of file system access. Mac OS is no longer any good for professional use, outside of media creation.

What's the best ~15" Linux laptop to ask for as a new hire these days?

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Post by perfect_wave »

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

Until I can wrong uBlock Origin on Safari I'm entirely unable to switch back.
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