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Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by Fnoord »

stevekemp wrote: post #127
caymanjim wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't even know anyone who uses a baby monitor. I think we can get by. If someone relies on one to the exclusion of actually checking on their child from time to time, the failure of the monitor is probably the least of risks.

I know we were gifted one, and it didn't ever get used. When the baby was brought home he shared the bedroom with the pair of us, and it was immediately obvious if he was crying. Later when he moved to sleeping in his own room we could still easily hear the noise of crying, as the room was immediately adjacent to our own, and we left the doors open. I remember we setup a routine at some point where one of us would sl…

Its not necessarily about missing out the crying or not, its about hearing it sooner rather than later. You speak of "the baby". If you got two children, you don't want the youngest crying to wake up the oldest (or vice versa). You really don't want a toddler with a lack of sleep. Its causing temper tantrums extraordinaire. Thus far, I got lucky with ours. When she sleeps, she's gone in la-la land, her brother crying be damned. Or so it seems.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by tgv »

jahewson wrote: post #133
jon-wood wrote: post #69

Please, please, do not use something like this as the only method of monitoring a child’s safety. This sort of thing has given me honest to god nightmares. My day job is managing development and infrastructure of internet connected cameras, with motion detection, notifications, and all the rest of it. Every now and again someone new will start on the marketing team and put together something about using them as baby…

If you’re using a baby monitor to observe a child in safety-critical situation, you’re doing something wrong.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/sudden-infant-death-syndrome-s...

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by rich_sasha »

knicholes wrote: post #50
rich_sasha wrote: post #31

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Lucky you. Baby #1 required beyond constant attention, literally like 30hr per day (healthy just needy). Baby #2 is sweet and easygoing, but then there’s 2 of them...

I have compassion for your experience having two of my own where one still is difficult after seven years, but I'm here to nitpick and win the pedantry award on your addition of "literally" when it's impossible to take 30 hours per day, as a day is only 24.

Although I meant my comment figuratively and in abuse of the word “literally”, I now feel compelled to defend it with lame grammar Nazi tactics:

I said the baby requires attention for 30hrs a day. This does not mean it receives that much attention, rather that a prerequisite to it making it through the day is 30 [person-]hours a day, indeed split between a few people. One person entertains, the other washes bottles, etc.

Tbh as a parent of 2 kids I barely have the time to write HN comments, I’m positively surprised how coherent it is in the first place...

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by amelius »

alexchamberlain wrote: post #143
dekhn wrote: post #95

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I've been an SRE before, and have kids. I don't think there's any real expectation that a baby monitor is a reliable alerting system that can be depended on. There are definitely people in the thread who believe that's the case, and it also looks like some products are built to those high standards, it's not legally required, and I don't think it's even desirable. I don't hold the people who care for my children to t…

I agree with the sentiment here; there seems to be an impression that a baby monitor is a safety device. I'm not sure it is. We use a baby monitor during naps and overnight. It's a good way to relay any noises and reassure us he's ok, but you can't really see enough detail on an overhead camera to see they're breathing or anything like that. It failed a few nights ago, and we woke up when we heard the crying through…

Technology cant prevent disasters, but we still use Tesla autopilot, I suppose some even with babies in the back.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by kwhitefoot »

stevekemp wrote: post #142
Moru wrote: post #136

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Around here we have a custom of letting your kid have a nap in the baby wagon outdoors, even in winter. I guess people started using baby monitors for that by now. When I was small, mum just left a window a bit open (1970-ish Sweden). This is even done at daycare down to -15 degrees C. However they do have someone present next to the kids at most times. There are lots of stories of swedish people going to USA and get…

I'm in Finland (although not Finnish), and we did the same thing. Putting the pram on the balcony, while the child was asleep. We'd usually leave the door partway open so we could hear if he cried. But to be honest once he was having a nap he was generally predictable, and quiet. Especially the lunchtime naps after food - we knew he'd be absolutely fine asleep for 90 minutes and then he'd probably wake up. On a long…

Same here in Norway.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by lkxijlewlf »

jon-wood wrote: post #69

Please, please, do not use something like this as the only method of monitoring a child’s safety. This sort of thing has given me honest to god nightmares. My day job is managing development and infrastructure of internet connected cameras, with motion detection, notifications, and all the rest of it. Every now and again someone new will start on the marketing team and put together something about using them as baby…

> If it loses video from the camera, it needs to alert. If it loses its network connection, it needs to alert. If whatever is meant to be receiving alerts doesn’t receive a heartbeat from the camera, it needs to alert. In all those cases that alert needs to be obnoxious as hell, and guaranteed to fire.

An exercise to think about this is the baby monitor should DEFAULT to the alarm state. Now, what conditions have to be met to turn the damn alarm off.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by lqet »

the-dude wrote: post #9
lqet wrote: post #6

"Lavish attention on me and entertain me." ― Maggie Simpson via the baby translator https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/Baby_translator That being said, every parent knows the "he/she has never cried like this" moment where your blood freezes and you rush to the child's bed. Seems hard to add this to the model in a reliable manner.

Please fill me in as a non-parent : what was actually up when the baby cried like that?

It's usually either outright pain (examples from our child: wasp sting, finger stuck between the valve handle spring of a garden hose, stomach pain, ...), nightmares or the feeling of being stuck somewhere (examples from our child: arm / leg stuck in the lattice of the baby bed, leg being caught in a shoe rack after climbing on it, ...).

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by sorum »

rich_sasha wrote: post #18

Other comments notwithstanding: how does a new parent find time for this???

Time can be found as a new parent, but it's really tough. My biggest question is, should a new parent spend time implementing this solution?

More of a philosophical question, but from my POV if you're spending time implementing this, you're not valuing your time enough. For the creator (Fabio), it's arguably time well spent: define a problem, use your creative muscles to a functioning solution, document it and show the world your creation. All well and good.

Tinkering to implement Fabio's solution, now that's where I see it being low-value usage of your own time. There's an opportunity cost to it; you could be spending time finding your own problem and creating a solution you could display.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

scruple wrote: post #60
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #42

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Hmm, I don't think so - seat sensors are used to enable / disable passenger airbags, my memory is that they only register weights over 40lb / 18kg.

> In 2016, General Motors took the lead among automotive manufacturers by introducing the Rear Seat Reminder, a technology designed to nudge drivers to check their back seats as they exit their vehicles. It uses an audible alert and a front panel message to tell drivers to check the rear of their vehicle for occupants. > Rear Seat Reminder technology became standard on all new Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, and Cadillac four…

Interesting, though hard to see how that prevents people from leaving children and pets in the front seats...

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

krzyk wrote: post #150
semi-extrinsic wrote: post #3

I don't get it. We bought a baby monitor in 2012 that was probably $80 (Philips brand I think). It was based off the DECT standard that was developed for wireless landline phones, so range was around 1200ft line-of-sight, in practice you could go two stories down in our apartment building to visit friends and it would stay connected just fine. The baby unit was quite bulky and ran off wall power, but the parent unit…

> your baby is left crying unattended for a long time. How is it possible? Are people leaving babies in far away corners of the house and walk outside with baby left alone? For me baby monitor is to inform me sooner when baby is starting to cry so I can comfort it faster and make it sleep again. I have never ever been 100% dependent on baby monitors. I will always eventual hear when my baby is crying, I do it right n…

If your partner isn't at home, and you're doing laundry in the basement while the baby sleeps on the 2nd floor, you definitely need it.

Also we let the babies sleep outside, it is a tradition around here [1]. Then you need a baby monitor.

And when our first kid got to the age where she slept fairly reliably (close to a year), we did go over to visit friends next door. The baby monitor was still in range there, basically twenty seconds to walk from door to door. But I'll concede that it's fairly unusual to have good friends living that close.

[1] https://www.treehugger.com/let-sleeping-babies-lie-chilly-te...

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