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Re: macOS Big Sur

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I have the beta version but the GM doesn't show up in Software Update

I think you need to leave the beta program to be able to use the stable build. Also, it might be in the App Store.

Re: macOS Big Sur

#63

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

I actually would use Safari on OS X if I still retained a way of syncing history / bookmarks / password with my Google account to my other Chrome instances on Android / Linux.

Re: macOS Big Sur

#64

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

Sounds great. Only thing really holding me back is no Safari for Windows. I use Windows for about 20% of my screentime, and I'd like for my browser to be synced across every single device I use.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

Probably because they use unexposed, undocumented APIs, but non-hardware accelerated CSS animations that trigger repaints (width, top, etc) in Safari are much, much smoother than in Chrome and FF. They look almost as good as accelerated animations.

Unfortunately I can't really commit to using Safari on desktop because they don't have good ad blocking extensions (please correct me if I'm wrong). Really like FF for this.

But I really appreciate how Apple is committed to improving and highlighting Safari. After totalitarian regimes, browser engine monoculture is the greatest threat to Internet freedom I can think of.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

the biggest gripe on my side was always the favbar which I put icons in, unfortunatly not on safari.... only icon mode is really bad there.

Re: macOS Big Sur

#67
The look and feel of Big Sur is like a breath of fresh air. It definitely feels related to iPadOS with the colors and buttons that seem destined for a touchscreen but as somebody who uses multiple Apple devices it was comforting rather than annoying.

There are ongoing issues with Apple locking down potential security problems and this makes some people unhappy. Carbon Copy Cloner didn't work with creating a bootable backup for a couple of months. Most people are happier with the increased security.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Desktop Safari has had push notifications since like… 10.9 Mavericks. Only mobile Safari doesn't support them.

I thought this too, but it seems Safari only supports the Notifications API for when a site is open, not Web Push for background notifications? https://caniuse.com/push-api

For Safari specifically you have to use Apple's push notification service (APNS), which is a lot of hassle compared to web push.

There is a ticket open for adding support into Safari, but it probably won't happen anytime soon. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182566

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Does it still have adblocking limitations? The same that Chrome wanted to implement?

Yes, there's a few features of WebExtensions that Safari chose not to implement. I'm having a hard time finding the article and discussion about this. The missing features prevent ad blockers like uBlock Origin from working.

This was a complete deal breaker for me. Half the internet is unusable without a decent ad blocking implementation these days and a decent one is virtually impossible with the charred remains of the API they left behind.

This was actually one of the (many) things that motivated me to migrate away from OSX.

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