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Re: Google knows where we are, and so do advertisers

#81

I miss the times when they needed to trick you into installing spyware. We now have fullstack client and server side malware built-in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claria_Corporation

I also miss the times when Microsoft asked us if we want to send them a bug report when an app crashed. Today they feel they can send all they want both ways.

Re: Google knows where we are, and so do advertisers

#83

I personally don't care. My location data is anonimized anyway. And there are sensible reasons for why advertisers can target audiences by region/location. No advertiser can identify me personally. And if I must be shown ads, I choose relevant ads to the nonsense I saw 20 years ago (flashy banners saying I won $1M).

It is very much not anonymized. It is trivially easy (albeit not cheap - around $10k/month) to buy access to mobile ad id data, draw a polygon around your house, and get all the “anonymous” ids. From there, you can see all other locations of those ids. When they anonymize you, that just means they give you an is not linked to your phone number or account. It doesn’t mean someone can’t link it for you. The best defens…

Google does not sell my data.

Re: Google knows where we are, and so do advertisers

#84

One of the most disappointing changes in Android recently is that any network-assisted geolocation plugins must now be installed as a system app, not a user app. That means that even if you use LineageOS where most Google stuff has been stripped out, getting a GPS fix through network assistance still sends data to Google servers. Only a tiny minority of users are comfortable working with the command line and will ins…

> getting a GPS fix through network assistance still sends data to Google servers

Well, that's not a GPS fix.

If you want a traceless position fix, use GPS Navstar / Glonass / Beidu / Galileo. Yes it takes longer from cold start, but that's the trade-off for privacy.

Re: Google knows where we are, and so do advertisers

#85
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Just using GMail could help Google to find your approx. location 7/24. Your phone checking emails all the time, so google knows your ip.

Behind a CGNAT, which most mobiles devices are, makes that point fairly moot. When I look up "my ip" on the phone it's always in a capital city 6 hours away. Your mileage may vary of course.

There are only three mobile carriers in the US, which means at most three organizations controlling the CGNATs. I can assure you that they are selling the reverse port-to-user mapping to the highest bidders.

Re: Google knows where we are, and so do advertisers

#86

I personally don't care. My location data is anonimized anyway. And there are sensible reasons for why advertisers can target audiences by region/location. No advertiser can identify me personally. And if I must be shown ads, I choose relevant ads to the nonsense I saw 20 years ago (flashy banners saying I won $1M).

What we are told is happening: We are collecting your information to show you relevant ads :)

Whats actually happening: https://transparencyreport.google.com/user-data/overview

Re: Google knows where we are, and so do advertisers

#87

Is there another way? This form of crowd sourcing data is how you are able to know when your next bus or train arrives. But what is the alternative? Should the concerned government body take it up? Your government releases a Maps application and asks citizens to use that...People are still going to have privacy concerns with that! Or we simply decide to wait for the next bus and not bother to know when it arrives. Go…

> Is there another way? This form of crowd sourcing data is how you are able to know when your next bus or train arrives.

A standard format for public transportation schedules exists, and many municipalities already provide that format to the public so that map-app developers can show public-transit details. So, people can find out when their next bus or train is going to arrive without giving up any of their own privacy.

Re: Google knows where we are, and so do advertisers

#88

Is there another way? This form of crowd sourcing data is how you are able to know when your next bus or train arrives. But what is the alternative? Should the concerned government body take it up? Your government releases a Maps application and asks citizens to use that...People are still going to have privacy concerns with that! Or we simply decide to wait for the next bus and not bother to know when it arrives. Go…

> Or we simply decide to wait for the next bus and not bother to know when it arrives. Go back to a laid back life? Many mortals think that is a good idea, and, that is OK. I'm one of those mortals; my data connection is disabled on the phone and used only for emergencies (last time I've used it was months ago). Ultimately it fits in the big picture of the connected life. One can still live disconnected, and pay 10%…

It could be we have shady internet habits too. God knows if we, for e.g., in our youth signed up to some online service, and, got our data leaked.

Re: Google knows where we are, and so do advertisers

#89
post #41

Your convenience at the expense of your privacy. I personally think it's great that I can lookup what I did two months ago thanks to Google services. I adblock and disable as much ad tracking as possible but I'm pretty happy with how useful google services are for my day to day errands. It reminds me of places I went two years ago that I couldn't remember without it. I find it strange people complain about it, yet st…

The complaint is that there are few viable alternatives. Whenever one does arise, Google or another tech behemoth buys it, eg Waze.

Trust me, I am aware of the conflict. I hate Google with a passion, yet I still use some of their services. I feel sick doing it, but sometimes the convenience is worth my nausea.

Re: Google knows where we are, and so do advertisers

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is very much not anonymized. It is trivially easy (albeit not cheap - around $10k/month) to buy access to mobile ad id data, draw a polygon around your house, and get all the “anonymous” ids. From there, you can see all other locations of those ids. When they anonymize you, that just means they give you an is not linked to your phone number or account. It doesn’t mean someone can’t link it for you. The best defens…

Google does not sell my data.

No, but third party apps do.
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