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Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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They are not priced competitive. Cheapest macbook air starts from $999. Cheapest Dell Inspiron starts from $319.

Answer straight from the horse's mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAo8gnUCWzE

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> The M1 chip, which belongs to a MacBook Air with 8GB RAM, features a single-core score of 1687 and a multi-core score of 7433. According to the benchmark, the M1 has a 3.2GHz base frequency. > The Mac mini with M1 chip that was benchmarked earned a single-core score of 1682 and a multi-core score of 7067. > Update: There's also a benchmark for the 13-inch MacBook Pro with M1 chip and 16GB RAM that has a single-core…

The results seem a little weird but if remotely true then these machines are going to sell like cup cakes. Why would anyone (who is not forced) buy an Intel PC laptop when these are available and priced as competitive as they are?

Basically anyone not lucky to live in countries with comparable economy to US, aka 80% of world IT.

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It may be possible the variations are due to differences in the thermal environment when the tests were conducted. I would expect the pro and mini to beat the air as they should have better thermals, but that may only show up over longer term tests and environmental factors could win out in shorter tests. Just a theory.

if I recall correctly, the geekbench score does run on small bursts and it's designed to find the peak performance without taking the thermal limitations in account.

Hence why Cinebench is often used these days when evaluating real-world performance with sustained workloads.

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They are not priced competitive. Cheapest macbook air starts from $999. Cheapest Dell Inspiron starts from $319.

The cheapest Dell Inspiron doesn't even hold a candle to the MacBook Air. They're not competing in the same class...

It certainly does when the best one can hope to bring home as software engineer is around 1000 euros after taxes.

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This is where I’m at too. Compromising Little Snitch and VPNs is just a bridge too far. It’s cool that they got this level of performance in a lightweight form factor, less so when it enables the worse of surveillance practices.

Ugh, I didn’t realize that the system apps would bypass VPNs, too. That’s terrible. :( https://appleterm.com/2020/10/20/macos-big-sur-firewalls-and... Looks like it will be impossible to use Apple Silicon (without external network hardware) without revealing your track log to the CIA. How cool is that?!

I'd like to see a good piece on these new Mac systems from the perspective of exactly what they mean in terms of software lockdown.

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The results seem a little weird but if remotely true then these machines are going to sell like cup cakes. Why would anyone (who is not forced) buy an Intel PC laptop when these are available and priced as competitive as they are?

They are not priced competitive. Cheapest macbook air starts from $999. Cheapest Dell Inspiron starts from $319.

You're free to buy the 50% plastic Dell Inspiron which comes with is probably underpowered for Windows 10 and comes with several free nagwares

You might be better served by wiping it and installing Linux though

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> Why would anyone (who is not forced) buy an Intel PC laptop when these are available and priced as competitive as they are? as a power user I will not be touching anything apple ARM until all my hundreds of software apps are certified to work exactly the same as on x86_64. i will not rely on rosetta to take care of this. i need actual testing. besides this, 8GB of RAM is how much a single instance of chrome uses. i…

> this could be a good time to jump the apple ship. it's pretty clear their focus is not their power users' focus. Apple is at day 1 of their two year migration to Apple Silicon. Your judgement seems not just a little premature.

it depends how you consider it.

“two year migration” sounds just about right for a transition to something non apple.

we can then re-visit apple in 3 years time.

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The cheapest Dell Inspiron doesn't even hold a candle to the MacBook Air. They're not competing in the same class...

It certainly does when the best one can hope to bring home as software engineer is around 1000 euros after taxes.

I fully get that the cheapest option might fit your budget and the MBA doesn't. And that's absolutely fine. Been there, done that. Heck, I wish my 1st laptop had cost $300 but in the end it was more around what the MBA cost today.

But it's not really an Apples to Apples comparison.

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I was going to add you cant do Android development on these, as you need Android Studio, but that seems to be on the way — Support for Apple Silicon is in progress

I assume they have the OpenJDK JVM ported at this point so all of JetBrains' products should be working or close to working.

Azul and Microsoft are doing the port.
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