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Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Dell Inc. XPS 15 9575 vs MacBookAir10,1 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4654605?baselin... Opinion: Pretty and impressive story

The MacBook has 8 cores vs 4 (hyperthreaded) in the Dell.

Not really. It's 8 big/small cores, so only 4 are "fast" ones

Which makes it even more impressive.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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The 16GB max ram still seems a head scratcher. Not what would suppose I want for video editing.

The three models Apple chose are all the consumer, low-end ones. You will see much higher specs on the Mac Mini Pro, MacBook Pro 14/16 and Mac Pro planned for next year.

I guess for those who desire more RAM the call is hold off on M1 based MacBooks until this ceiling is raised. I’m guessing an intel based MacBook is a better call, except resale price will suffer.

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I've been holding onto my late 2013 15" MacBook Pro for almost 7 years now and it's wild to see it get absolutely out-spec'd by the MacBook Air. It's been a long time, but I've always convinced myself that I'm not missing out on that big of a processor improvement. I do a lot of audio work with it, but even then it doesn't always feel like a slow experience.

My favorite model, the keyboard is heavenly.

I really do love it. I'm gonna miss it when I eventually have to retire it. It's been rock solid this entire time.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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The 16GB max ram still seems a head scratcher. Not what would suppose I want for video editing.

With the unified memory, 8 CPU and GPU cores and super fast I/O and native FinalCut Pro, video editing will be just fine.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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I'm looking forward to seeing what the top end of this chip can do. 64 cores ought to be nice! 32 cores at least.

Interesting question is whether they go with 2x/4x M1 or have a specially designed M2.

It'll definitely be a different chip either way. To have a 2x or 4x M1s would require interconnects between the CPUs for sharing RAM and general communication, which isn't there on the M1 currently. So at a minimum you're talking a rev of M1 to add such interconnects. But that all seems very unlikely. If they do go that route it'd almost certainly be something like AMD's chiplets instead of just straight "multi-socket"

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Kind of remarkable for a laptop without a fan. (Infamous fan-hater Steve Jobs would be proud.)

Power/thermal management looks very good - low heat and long battery life without sacrificing performance.

Presumably the Air will have to throttle performance for some workloads, but not in this benchmark apparently.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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So... I'd be feeling pretty silly right now if I bought the Mac Pro in 2019 for like $7,000. (Which I almost did!)

https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/457

M1 is comparable to baseline Mac Pro on multicore performance and better on single core performance. And several thousand dollars cheaper (and smaller).

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This idea of “actual professionals” that always comes up in response to apple’s “Pro” moniker amuses me to no end.

Everybody throws the term around and no two people have the same definition! What in the world is an actual professional? There are professional journalists that just need a browser and text editor. There are professional programmers working on huge code bases in compiled languages that do need a beefy machine, and there are professional programmers that just need a dumb terminal to ssh into a dev machine in the cloud.

And then of course what the largest subset of people seem to mean is professional video editors or content creators. What percent of the working population are video editors? Some tiny fraction, how did that become the default type of professional in the context of talking about computers?

And then a lot of things that people also complain about like how replacing the wider variety of ports with usb c or thunderbolt is contradictory on a “professional” machine also don’t really make sense. Professionals can use dongles like anyone else. In fact many professionals will have more specific needs that require a single a way, for instance having a builtin sd card reader doesn’t help a professional photographer using cfexpress cards.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hardware is able to use an eGPU, but Apple decided to not compile the Radeon drivers for arm64 macOS at least for now. Hopefully they'll reverse that decision. (or their GPUs in the higher end machines will have to be really good)

I'm assuming (for now) that discrete GPUs will still be featured in higher-end machines, so the Radeon drivers will appear over the next couple of years.

There is still PCIe bus and Thunderbolt, technically it is still possible to connect NVIDIA/AMD GPU to Apple Silicon, but we need enough bus (x8 or x16) and drivers.
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