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Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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If the M1 mops the floor with everything else, why didn't they put it in the high-end 16-inch MBP too?

I think we have to assume something else is coming. Certainly something that supports >16GB of RAM, and something that has more I/O. While we're there we may as well a bunch more cores...

It also needs a proper application for marketing.

Something “previously not possible on a portable” specific to Apple’s other strengths.

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This is pretty crazy to see, even if the full story isn't clear yet. A base level MacBook Air is taking the crown of the best MacBook Pro. Wow. SVP Johny Srouji and all of the Apple hardware + silicon team have been smashing it for the past many years. For what it's worth, I have a fully specced out 16 inch MacBook Pro with the AMD Radeon Pro 5600m and even with that I'm regularly hitting 100% usage of the card, and…

Surely a version that can beat a 8 core Xeon is made for 'actual professionals'?

Dunno, seems like most professionals would want to use docker, virtual machines, or enough video/data to want more than 16GB ram. Or maybe even plug in more than a charging cable and one more device. Or run more than one external monitor.

Doesn't seem very "pro" to me. The MBP16" intel has 4 x USB-c ports, can drive two monitors, and can have >= 32GB ram.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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This is pretty crazy to see, even if the full story isn't clear yet. A base level MacBook Air is taking the crown of the best MacBook Pro. Wow. SVP Johny Srouji and all of the Apple hardware + silicon team have been smashing it for the past many years. For what it's worth, I have a fully specced out 16 inch MacBook Pro with the AMD Radeon Pro 5600m and even with that I'm regularly hitting 100% usage of the card, and…

Surely a version that can beat a 8 core Xeon is made for 'actual professionals'?

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Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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My 15" MBP (2019, 2.4 Ghz, 32 Gb, 560x 4 Gb) is probably the most disappointing machine I've ever owned. The keyboard is meh, the battery isn't great and it's no where near as performant or efficient as it should be for the price. My 5.7k AUD laptop shouldn't sound like it's taking off to Mars because Firefox with a few tabs has been open too long. Heaven forbid I try and compile or transpile anything.

These types of results make me hopeful for the future of Apple hardware. I've always been a huge fan of OSX, but I was pretty sure this MBP would be the last Apple laptop I would buy. Looking forward to being wrong.

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ARM is the future, at least in laptops. Apple lead the fray again, it's incredible.

I have a burning question: Can I use gcc, python, etc. on the new M1-based Macbooks? I am thinking about getting one but not sure if I can use it as a development machine. How does rosetta translation layer work with brew apps and other binaries?

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That demo shows an ARM VM with Linux for ARM running inside it. There have been no announcements or demos of Intel emulation, besides Rosetta 2.

Parallels announced a full version of Parallels Desktop (which is the Win-on-macOS product) at the same time as the event on Nov 10: https://www.parallels.com/blogs/parallels-desktop-apple-sili...

No mention there of it supporting x86 on M1.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Dell Inc. XPS 15 9575 vs MacBookAir10,1 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4654605?baselin... Opinion: Pretty and impressive story

The MacBook has 8 cores vs 4 (hyperthreaded) in the Dell.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Air vs. Tiger Lake 1165: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4306696?baselin... And the GPGPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/compare/1800719?bas...

The Dell XPS with a i7-1165G7 processor has a base price $1,499. This includes a 512GB SSD so compares to the Macbook Air's $1,199 price with the same SSD. With that Macbook Air configuration, you also get a higher resolution screen.

Apple’s SSDs tend to be faster too, but also soldered in along with everything else.
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