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Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by sharkjacobs »

harshitaneja wrote: post #63

All those thinking of buying the new MBA, are you not concerned about availability of applications? Not all x86 applications will have an ARM alternative, yet.

Rosetta 2 sounds pretty good

> fun fact: retaining and releasing an NSObject takes ~30 nanoseconds on current gen Intel, and ~6.5 nanoseconds on an M1

> …and ~14 nanoseconds on an M1 emulating an Intel

https://mobile.twitter.com/Catfish_Man/status/13262384342355...

I won't be replacing my workstation this weekend but then, I won't be updating it to Big Sur just yet either. I am getting a new personal machine sometime in the next year though I don't imagine I'll be buying an Intel Mac.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by arn »

threeseed wrote: post #42
kube-system wrote: post #36

Anyone have thoughts on where are these benchmarks might be coming from? Part of me wants to put in my order today, and part of me wants to wait until after the YouTube reviews.

At this point you would expect key developers like Microsoft, Adobe, OmniGroup etc to have retail hardware for testing. And whilst they are under NDA you do often see them running anonymous benchmarks like Geekbench.

There are also review units certainly out there

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

xvector wrote: post #52
srtjstjsj wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you pay a fortune for 32GB RAM, a larger screen, and a dGPU if you don't need it? You could have bought a 13" MBP and saved enough cash to get the new Air and now have 2 laptops.

1. How do you know he didn’t need it? 2. Even if he didn’t need it, why assume he didn’t want it? 3. Why are you assuming that money is an issue for him?

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Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by tambourine_man »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #58

I am really looking forward to where this goes. That said, I am definitely waiting for at least one generation to pass before I jump on the train. I’ve been through this before. It will be great, but Apple is a master at smoke & mirrors. Things will not go as smoothly as the sizzle reels make it seem.

I think this will be their smoothest transition by far. Everything is compiled by the same tool chain with much higher level frameworks.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by thoughtsimple »

saagarjha wrote: post #2

It's interesting that the Mac Mini is clocked slightly lower than the laptops.

There seems to be only one public test of the Macmini9,1. Sometimes GeekBench is not accurate on the clock speeds. Take the clock speed with a little skepticism until more results are posted. I can't see why the system with the best cooling would be 3.04 GHz instead of 3.2 like both the MacBook Pro and Air.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by thoughtsimple »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #53

And this test is very likely not the native test, but ran with translation from Rosetta. Kudos to Apple. This has the highest single core performance of all processors including highest end desktop processors from Intel and AMD: https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks

These are native. The ARM/Fat Binary release was today on the App Store.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by minxomat »

refulgentis wrote: post #78
minxomat wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a mobile CPU with many silicon advantages (widest decoder in industry, memory closer, deepest re-order buffer of any CPU and much more) plus a sane ISA and optimized OS. So yeah, you're seeing the benefit of Apples integration. That's why even the Anandtech page calls that graph "absurd", because it seems unreal, but it's real.

Gotta be frank because it's not getting through: you're jumping way ahead here. Every time one of these threads has happened, there's an ever-increasing # of people who vaguely remember reading a story about Apple GeekBench numbers, so therefore this one is credible too - I used to be one of those people. This has been going regularly for 3-4 years now, and your interlocutor as well as other comments on this article…

My comment, and this specific thread, isn't even related to GeekBench. The graph I linked used SPEC instead of GB5. The gigantic architectural deep dive over on Anandtech even includes a discussion on the strengths and limits of both benchmarks, and how they make sense based on further micro-architecture testing.

The reason that graph doesn't include the A14 Firestorm -> M1 jump was simply timing. We know the thermal envelopes of the M1 and the cooling designs. We now have clock info thanks to GB5. So yes, the data is pretty solid. No one's saying that the iPhone beats the Mac (or a PC) at performance when you consider the whole system. Just that the CPU architecture can and will deliver higher performance given the M1 clock, thermals and cooling. Remember that The A14/M1 CPUs are faster at lower clock speeds.

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