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Why did you pay a fortune for 32GB RAM, a larger screen, and a dGPU if you don't need it? You could have bought a 13" MBP and saved enough cash to get the new Air and now have 2 laptops.
1. How do you know he didn’t need it? 2. Even if he didn’t need it, why assume he didn’t want it? 3. Why are you assuming that money is an issue for him?
Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
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Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
#72I've been holding onto my late 2013 15" MacBook Pro for almost 7 years now and it's wild to see it get absolutely out-spec'd by the MacBook Air. It's been a long time, but I've always convinced myself that I'm not missing out on that big of a processor improvement. I do a lot of audio work with it, but even then it doesn't always feel like a slow experience.
Those are supposed at just as much of a disadvantage compared to the new Apple Silicon Air and Pro.
That's where shock comes in.
Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
#73All those thinking of buying the new MBA, are you not concerned about availability of applications? Not all x86 applications will have an ARM alternative, yet.
Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
#74Air vs. Tiger Lake 1165: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4306696?baselin... And the GPGPU: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/compare/1800719?bas...
Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
#75Their line from the video about being the highest performance chip in single core appears to be true. This is of course a synthetic benchmark but the single core result is very promising. Note that the single core and multi core scores exceed the top-of-the-line 16” MacBook Pro (9th generation 8-core i9 2.4 ghz). I actually made the call to sell my 16” for the new Air yesterday. It’s looking like a good call. Glad I’…
Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
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Yes, in fact, the A14 (iPhone 12) already surpassed most Intel chips: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16226/perf-trajectory_575p... Intel is now #3
A modern mobile CPU with a TDP of 6 watts is beating a modern desktop CPU with a TDP of 125 watts? Is it just me or this seems too good to be true?
Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
#77All those thinking of buying the new MBA, are you not concerned about availability of applications? Not all x86 applications will have an ARM alternative, yet.
Everyone is on Xcode these days and using much higher level frameworks. Adobe and Microsoft already announced early 2021 availability of native binaries.
Besides, Rosetta 2 is even more impressive than the original was. I’m betting it will be a breeze. 6 months in and almost everything will be native.
Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
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A modern mobile CPU with a TDP of 6 watts is beating a modern desktop CPU with a TDP of 125 watts? Is it just me or this seems too good to be true?
It's a mobile CPU with many silicon advantages (widest decoder in industry, memory closer, deepest re-order buffer of any CPU and much more) plus a sane ISA and optimized OS. So yeah, you're seeing the benefit of Apples integration. That's why even the Anandtech page calls that graph "absurd", because it seems unreal, but it's real.
Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
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Yes, in fact, the A14 (iPhone 12) already surpassed most Intel chips: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16226/perf-trajectory_575p... Intel is now #3
A modern mobile CPU with a TDP of 6 watts is beating a modern desktop CPU with a TDP of 125 watts? Is it just me or this seems too good to be true?
Check out for example the per core power charts that Anandtech does: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16214/amd-zen-3-ryzen-deep-di...
Compare for example the 1 core power numbers between the chips. The 5600X 1 core result is 11w @ 4.6ghz, whereas the other two chips boost higher and hit 4.8-4.9ghz 1 core turbos, but it costs 17-18w to do it. Huge increase in power for that last 1-2% performance. So you really can't or shouldn't compare more power-concious configurations with the top end desktop where power is infinite and well worth spending for even single digit percentage gains.
And then of course you should also note that the single-core power draw in all of those is vastly lower than their TDP numbers (65w for the 5600x, and 125w for the 5800x/5900x).
Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro
#80Is geekbench accurate at comparing across different architectures?
Generally, yes. The benchmarks are calculating/computing the same things on both architectures, and the various sub-benchmarks are based on real-world non-trivial computational problems rather than microbenchmarks that are easily manipulated by instruction set differences.
https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=185109&curpost...