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Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by evanpw »

systemvoltage wrote: post #79
tmpz22 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've raised $68.2m they no longer have the option to make a really great product that follows the unix philosophy. They have to do anything they can to attract enterprise customers which is where the real investment-justifying money will be, and for the most part that means having an infinite list of features at a competitive price. Granted, for selling out to VC they've still done a good job with design and produ…

Equating Notion to Unix - I don’t follow. In what sense? Unix philosophy is hardly relatable to Notion. For one, I can’t stand their frivolous design - emojis everywhere.

Unix philosophy meaning tools that do one thing

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by tmpz22 »

tomasreimers wrote: post #78
tmpz22 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've raised $68.2m they no longer have the option to make a really great product that follows the unix philosophy. They have to do anything they can to attract enterprise customers which is where the real investment-justifying money will be, and for the most part that means having an infinite list of features at a competitive price. Granted, for selling out to VC they've still done a good job with design and produ…

Yes, and I believe a lot of startup advice is to do one thing well (serving a specific market) before trying to branch out. Or are you saying they're trying to throws things at a wall to see what sticks with enterprise customers?

On paper they've already done the whole MVP/product-fit phase and are using the money to fast-forward into $100m-$1B ARR territory. This thread is talking about a relatively minor update as part of that phase, and leading people to point out the various flaws in their product with the corollary that they aren't really worth $100m-$1b territory in the first place.

Then again who knows, surveymonkey is an example of a company that nobody thought would "get there" and yet they did.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by arnaudsm »

Lazare wrote: post #36

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

I don't understand how Notion pages take 2+ seconds to load on 12-core machine with a gigabit connection.

And you can't load multiple pages at once, it has to be in focus!

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by tmpz22 »

evanpw wrote: post #81
systemvoltage wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Equating Notion to Unix - I don’t follow. In what sense? Unix philosophy is hardly relatable to Notion. For one, I can’t stand their frivolous design - emojis everywhere.

Unix philosophy meaning tools that do one thing

By my definition in a platform/product sense unix philosophy = not trying to do all the things and being happy about it. But yeah, same idea basically.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by philippz »

Lazare wrote: post #36

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

I absolutely agree. Notion's performance is absolutely disturbing my product adoption. I'm still sticking with Apple Notes for that reason.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by jitl »

tmpz22 wrote: post #76
tomasreimers wrote: post #72

Notion seems to be one of those companies going wide before they go deep. By my count, they want to be a: * Todo list / task manager / long-term planner * Blogging/publishing platform * Internal wiki * Note-taking app One of the more cynical takes I've heard is that this is the result of an incredible product sense without the necessary direction to support it. Regardless of the reason, they seem to be releasing feat…

They've raised $68.2m they no longer have the option to make a really great product that follows the unix philosophy. They have to do anything they can to attract enterprise customers which is where the real investment-justifying money will be, and for the most part that means having an infinite list of features at a competitive price. Granted, for selling out to VC they've still done a good job with design and produ…

Notion inherits more from the “cathedral” philosophy (Xerox PARC) than the “bazaar” philosophy (AT&T Bell Labs). Read more here: https://www.notion.so/about

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

arnaudsm wrote: post #83
Lazare wrote: post #36

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

I don't understand how Notion pages take 2+ seconds to load on 12-core machine with a gigabit connection. And you can't load multiple pages at once, it has to be in focus!

That suggests to me that the latency would be the network on their end

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by hk__2 »

jeromenerf wrote: post #53
Lazare wrote: post #36

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

Notion is indeed slow. Slack is slow. Google drive is slow. Trello is slow. Some local/native alternatives can be snappier. Speed and snappiness don’t always come together, but when they do, there is no going back to something even a little slower or less reactive. That’s why I don’t test nor try new hardware until I actually need more than what I have. It’s too strong to resist ;)

Trello is very fast in my experience. Slack is fast when you’re used to slower alternatives like Mattermost.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by olso »

Still waiting for a way to apply a filter over "Relations" field

We have a field called related tasks. We would like to filter related based on status field (Done/Todo).

Without creating additional linked database views inside a page

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