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Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by krono »

kbos87 wrote: post #26
krono wrote: post #15

I have some serious data privacy concerns with Notion. The excruciating slowness of the platform in all its forms and iterations is also completely unworkable. A real shame as I really need something like this in my life - both personal and professional.

Can you elaborate on what some of those data privacy concerns are? I’ve centralized more and more in Notion and I’m admittedly a layperson when it comes to really understanding what questions I should even ask to judge the security of something like Notion.

The fact that Notion staff technically has unrestricted access to all user and account data legally prevents me from putting the vast majority of my work-related items on there.

On top of that there's so much tracking going on that even Facebook would be jealous.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Check out their T&C and Privacy Policy:

https://www.notion.so/Terms-Conditions-4e1c5dd3e3de45dfa4a8e...

https://www.notion.so/Privacy-Policy-3468d120cf614d4c9014c09...

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Post by xrisk »

My only problem with Notion seems to be that it doesn’t play well at all with SEO. Google doesn’t index my blog which is hosted on Notion; presumably because it’s all rendered client-side.

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Post by tomjen3 »

baron816 wrote: post #17
lordleft wrote: post #5

Notion is a great tool and I recommend it as a solid "all-around" personal-wiki / notetaking tool. That being said, the fact that it's electron-based means it's not always as snappy as I'd like it to be when I want to quickly capture a thought -- sometimes the "page" has to reload, even when I'm using the desktop app. I also notice that like slack, it suffers from the same in-line text formatting woes, which can be i…

Always a complaint about Electron on here. Frankly, Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron. It perhaps wouldn’t even exist. Trust, it being an Electron app is a good thing for you, despite its limitations.

You don't get a productivity boost with electron over something like XAML. What you get is the ability to reuse your web code in an app, access a few more APIs and call it "native".

Most apps today are so bloody slow they are unworkable. Remember your program absolutely positively have to respond in under 100 milliseconds or won't be perceived as instant and will thus be a hindrance to thought, rather than a benefit to it.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by thom »

FirstLvR wrote: post #19

still no 2FA? or encryption? Notion is amazing, but lack of security/privacy options for me

You can technically hook it up to SAML and so enforce 2FA elsewhere but I assume that'd be absurd levels of overkill for most people.

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Post by krono »

icu wrote: post #30
krono wrote: post #15

I have some serious data privacy concerns with Notion. The excruciating slowness of the platform in all its forms and iterations is also completely unworkable. A real shame as I really need something like this in my life - both personal and professional.

I share your concerns, that's why I made sure they are GDPR compliant before becoming a subscriber. If you're not based in the UK or EU, say you're in the US... well good luck. Swiss cheese has fewer holes than US privacy laws! Having said all that, as a user of Notion I've been incredibly impressed. Their support staff seem friendly and responsive and they keep making the product better and better. My only gripes ar…

GDPR Compliance is nice and all, but as long as their staff has the ability to access my data, I just can't legally host most of my business data on that platform.

Other than that and the terrible performance I love Notion and I really hope they get this sorted. I'll even keep paying for my personal account (drop in the bucket, I know) in the hopes that they will.

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Post by Lazare »

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion.

Unfortunately, it's too slow, at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage.

If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certainly understand why they'd choose the tech stack they did...

...but I'll stick with Joplin. :)

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Post by guessmyname »

baron816 wrote: post #17
lordleft wrote: post #5

Notion is a great tool and I recommend it as a solid "all-around" personal-wiki / notetaking tool. That being said, the fact that it's electron-based means it's not always as snappy as I'd like it to be when I want to quickly capture a thought -- sometimes the "page" has to reload, even when I'm using the desktop app. I also notice that like slack, it suffers from the same in-line text formatting woes, which can be i…

Always a complaint about Electron on here. Frankly, Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron. It perhaps wouldn’t even exist. Trust, it being an Electron app is a good thing for you, despite its limitations.

> Frankly, Notion and it’s ilk would not be nearly has great or feature rich without Electron. It perhaps wouldn’t even exist. Trust, it being an Electron app is a good thing for you, despite its limitations.

Google Mail (Gmail) is very successful despite not having an official desktop application, even though Electron and other web wrappers exist. I am confident that Slack, Discord, Messenger, WhatsApp, Notion, among other web applications, would exist without Electron, and the features would be the same.

If you are a macOS user and want to have a better experience with hybrid web applications, I highly recommend Fluid [1] or Unite [2]. They both create wrappers for web applications using WebKit, which performs several times better than Chromium on macOS.

[1] https://fluidapp.com

[2] https://www.bzgapps.com/unite

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Post by krono »

aidos wrote: post #27
krono wrote: post #15

I have some serious data privacy concerns with Notion. The excruciating slowness of the platform in all its forms and iterations is also completely unworkable. A real shame as I really need something like this in my life - both personal and professional.

I mentioned https://www.getoutline.com/ below that I haven’t tried but looks great. Would be interested in hearing from anyone who’s tried it.

Nice try, Outline marketing team ;)

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Post by ConcernedCoder »

alexh1 wrote: post #12

Anyone have insight into how they built this? Custom Gantt solution or you think they bought one? There are no good and free JS gantt libraries, but many, many paid ones. I've been trying to find a good one for Portabella ( https://portabella.io ) as they're an essential part of project management platforms, but no luck yet.

we use https://www.bryntum.com/

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Post by threatofrain »

krono wrote: post #15

I have some serious data privacy concerns with Notion. The excruciating slowness of the platform in all its forms and iterations is also completely unworkable. A real shame as I really need something like this in my life - both personal and professional.

While this has become a thread for talking about alternatives, has anyone found a solution with a premium Latex + markdown experience? So far I've found VSC to be the best experience.
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