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Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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Re: Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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From the blog post [0]: > Any photos or videos you’ve uploaded in High quality before June 1, 2021 will not count toward your 15GB of free storage. If this is a concern you personally have, take a look at this help page: https://support.google.com/accounts/troubleshooter/6357590?h... Disclaimer: I work for Google, but not on any of this stuff. [0] - https://blog.google/products/photos/storage-changes/

This helps me personally a little bit, but it's sad to see that going forward the world will need to find a new way to organize & make available their visual media, especially after death. Today marks a new era, where linkrot- of many of our most treasured things- will be a much more personal & unfortunate seeming inevitability.

Yes. Everyone is focussing on the curtailing of free uploads for high resolution images. But I don't think anyone yet has mentioned what is far more concerning for me; the fact that Google'a announcement also says that if your account is inactive for two years, they MAY [my emphasis] delete your data:

  >What happens when you're inactive
  When you have been inactive in a product for 2 years, we may delete all content for that product. But before we do that, we will:

  Give you notice using email and notifications within the Google products. We will contact you at least three months before content is eligible for deletion. 
  Give you the opportunity to avoid deletion (by becoming active in the product)
  Give you the opportunity to download your content from our services.
  
  Important: As an example, if you're inactive for 2 years in Photos, but still active in Drive and Gmail, we will only delete Google Photos content. Content in Gmail and Google Drive (including Google Docs, Sheets, Slides, Drawings, Forms and Jamboard files) will not be deleted if you are active in those products.  
That is pretty concerning for anyone who believed that, in the event of their death, their Google Photos archive would still be around for their surviving friends and family to enjoy.

Re: Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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Google is 100% running out of space. Google Photos no longer unlimited - https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/11/21560810/google-photos-u... GSuite no longer unlimited - https://9to5google.com/2020/10/08/google-workspace-drive-sto... Google Drive to delete trash after 30 days. Before, it stored till you perma deleted - https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2020/09/drive-trash-aut... Google Docs to be counted as storage sp…

Big players do this to lock out competition. Give away a product or keep the price absurdly low until all the competition is wiped out. Then slowly start turning up the cranks to maximize profits.

And now Gmail is the largest email provider by far. Almost everyone else has been sidelined. Same for photo storage.

Re: Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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Time to dust off my side project, Timeliner [1] which downloads your Google Photos (and other content from various services) and indexes them in a local SQLite DB. Then after backing them up locally, I won't feel bad about deleting them from the cloud later to free up space. I've been using Timeliner for a while but need to update it. New maintainers welcomed, if you're interested! (One major "oof" is that the Google…

Exporting via Takeout will retain the geolocation tags. The API isn't the best place to export.

I've stumbled upon this problem lately. Is there any software to organize the takeout dump sensibly?

Re: Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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Ironic as it sounds - privacy?

Ironic indeed. I can’t help but wonder if Google stores the geolocation data privately where only they can access it for their own data mining uses before removing it from the photos.

You can see the location on Photos website/app, it's not hidden from the user. You also still get it when you Takeout the photos. It's explicitly stripped when sent through the API, because said API is generally used by other websites for getting your photos, and it's not clear to the user they are actually leaking their location when uploading a Photo to "ShareYourRecipe.com".

Re: Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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They're still an ad company at the end of the day. Now they're going to charge you and advertise to you. Win win for them.

Photos doesn't show ads or allow your photos to be used for ad targeting.

  >Photos doesn't show ads or allow your photos to be used for ad targeting.
I think you forgot a "yet" in that sentence.

Re: Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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the long term cost of buying something like a 12TB USB3.0 external hard drive and periodically letting it synchronize from your master copies, then unplugging it and storing it at a trusted family member's house is a great deal less than paying for 12TB+ of "cloud" storage indefinitely forever.

Sure, except no drive sync software is as convenient or user friendly as google photos.

Maybe if you commit 100% to the Google system or work solely on your iPhone/iPad it is.

I wanted to look at pictures on the big screen of my desktop Mac. Leaving Google Photos in automatic upload on my phone meant that photos would all get uploaded but the ones that I culled would be deleted from Apple Photos but not Google Photos.

Using Google Photos on my phone would let me delete both copies (Apple and Google) but it was much harder to make out differences. 27" screen vs 6" screen.

I was using Google Photos in the unlimited free quality mode so their copy shouldn't match my original pictures.

So Google Photos ended up as a place where I dumped photos as a backup. I bought more storage on iCloud.

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Time to dust off my side project, Timeliner [1] which downloads your Google Photos (and other content from various services) and indexes them in a local SQLite DB. Then after backing them up locally, I won't feel bad about deleting them from the cloud later to free up space. I've been using Timeliner for a while but need to update it. New maintainers welcomed, if you're interested! (One major "oof" is that the Google…

I have one primary collection but I also have probably 30TB of old drives lying around with photos scattered all about. Is there something I can do to mount those drives, grab all image files and then dedupe/catalog them (at least by date)? Ideally this would work with videos as well.

From the comfort of a terminal[1], a few options comes to mind,

git-annex[2] will allow you to index all, or just some, of those files where they are - and keep track if you shuffle them around. The really useful feature in your case, is that git-annex will keep tabs on even your disconnected harddrives, flashdrives or cloud storage. It will let you know if you have redundant copies and how many, or if you're about to trash the last known instance of IMG001.jpg. It will point you to specific storage media if query some file not currently local.

Note that it's not entirely as trivial as I make it out to be - git vcs experience helps. Some love it.

In your situation, I'd might try borg[3] - No experience, but I heard appreciative voices about it and docs seem OK.

Personally, I always end up using rmlint/fdupe and unix tools, but that's a secret.

[2] https://git-annex.branchable.com/ [2] https://github.com/borgbackup/borg [3] There's GUI implementations of these

Re: Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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Why not just pay $30/yr to get access to all the features which Google Photos (and other Google services) offer? I know $30 is not the same everywhere but if you are in US (and assuming you are in tech given you are on HN), you'd spend that much in a dinner without thinking much. There is something about paying about online services which brings a lot of resistance in us (me included but I think I am getting over it)

Realistically... if you wanted to pay $30/year for a set and forget photo album, is Google the best place to do that? Given how they often they deprecate things and how hard I've heard it is to restore a disabled account, I feel like some kind of smaller company dedicated to photo storage would be much better anyway

Photos is a billion user product, how many of those have they deprecated? The disabled account thing may be a real concern, but statistically it's more rare than getting into a plane crash, yet we still fly planes. Also, if anything, monetizing the product and allowing it to be self-sustaining financially makes it far less likely to be killed. I'd much rather pay for a product that brings me value, since now I'm a real customer get treated differently from a free user. Also AFAIK Google has never killed a paid service either.

I would be curious to know what the competition looks like, but I don't know of any other service that lets me do "Show me photos of me and my brother at the beach" and actually return relevant results. The face/object clustering is near flawless, and even works with pets.

Re: Google Photos will end its free unlimited storage in June 2021

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I guess the free lunch is finally over. For ~15 years (since the launch of GMail) Google has differentiated itself on storage. Both in terms of products offerings and in terms of company image. To me it signifies a change in the market. They don't feel like they currently need to compete with Apple or Microsoft on any of these fronts right now. The market is pretty stable and there are more battlefields ahead. So tim…

I think its more that as better privacy laws come into place, its hard to make money through ads and give free stuff away so they are dialing things back for the long run.
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