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Re: Show HN: Self-hosted offline Internet from your browsing history

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I implemented some options for that purpose in SingleFile [1]. They allow you to save the page when you bookmark it and eventually replace the URL of the page with the file URI on your disk. [1] https://github.com/gildas-lormeau/SingleFile

Cool, I was so into maff back in the days. I'll give it a try. (I even wrote this before checking out your link: Have you heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Archive_Format from two or three Internets ago ? If so what's your thoughts on it ?)

I would recommend you to take a look at SingleFileZ [1], it should remind you of something ;)

[1] https://github.com/gildas-lormeau/SingleFileZ

Re: Show HN: Self-hosted offline Internet from your browsing history

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Isn't this how the internet was supposed to work in the first place? I remember Netscape navigator having a 'go offline' icon in the corner.

Firefox still has it under File.

In the modern hamburger menu, it’s under “More”.

Re: Show HN: Self-hosted offline Internet from your browsing history

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Very interesting project. I wish this was actually (optional) built-in behavior for browsers when bookmarking pages, or at least when adding to a "read later" list like Pocket/Instapaper etc. Pocket seems to offer something like this, but only in the premium version, so the "permanent archive" ironically seems to go away when unsubscribing. As a workaround, what if bookmarking a (public) page could actually ping it t…

I implemented some options for that purpose in SingleFile [1]. They allow you to save the page when you bookmark it and eventually replace the URL of the page with the file URI on your disk. [1] https://github.com/gildas-lormeau/SingleFile

Why a zip file instead of a WARC file?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_ARChive

Re: Show HN: Self-hosted offline Internet from your browsing history

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I’ve been storing my research as text files (manual copy and paste of web page content) for years.

And, I’ve wanted a _search history first_ plugin for web search to find pages I missed saving, but recall reading.

Since the former takes time and the latter doesn’t exist, I gather I could buy storage and save browsing using this tool.

It would be interesting to see how it works in practice—saving so much data.

Also, For work I’d be interested to know how it works for password protected sites like banking, social media, etc.

Re: Show HN: Self-hosted offline Internet from your browsing history

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I implemented some options for that purpose in SingleFile [1]. They allow you to save the page when you bookmark it and eventually replace the URL of the page with the file URI on your disk. [1] https://github.com/gildas-lormeau/SingleFile

Why a zip file instead of a WARC file? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_ARChive

Because it's easier to produce and extract. The zip format also allows creating self-extracting files (I'm referring to SingleFileZ). I'm not sure this is possible with the WARC format.

Re: Show HN: Self-hosted offline Internet from your browsing history

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Would be cool if you could create a whitelist of websites, then have a feature to check if any other users have more recent versions of those sites (if they happen to be online). This way you get decentralized site updates without actually going to each site itself.

Re: Show HN: Self-hosted offline Internet from your browsing history

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Would be cool if you could create a whitelist of websites, then have a feature to check if any other users have more recent versions of those sites (if they happen to be online). This way you get decentralized site updates without actually going to each site itself.

Yes. But also keep one's own originally downloaded version, in case the newer version is messed up

And even more cool: If one could browse one's friends' sites, while everyone was offline (if their privacy / sharing settings allowed), just a local net in maybe a rural village

Edit: roadmap: "Distributed p2p web browser on IPFS" -- is that it? :-)

Re: Show HN: Self-hosted offline Internet from your browsing history

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I’ve been storing my research as text files (manual copy and paste of web page content) for years. And, I’ve wanted a _search history first_ plugin for web search to find pages I missed saving, but recall reading. Since the former takes time and the latter doesn’t exist, I gather I could buy storage and save browsing using this tool. It would be interesting to see how it works in practice—saving so much data. Also, F…

I’ve been working on an app that’s pretty much exactly “the latter”! [0]

The amount of disk space it takes up isn’t crazy. It has been very useful for me.

[0] https://apse.io

Re: Show HN: Self-hosted offline Internet from your browsing history

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Isn't this how the internet was supposed to work in the first place? I remember Netscape navigator having a 'go offline' icon in the corner.

I remember that button, too, but I think it had more to do with connection charges than caching. In Netscape days, many people would have to pay by the minute to be connected to the internet. In those days, web pages generally contained far more information than they do now, and were less interactive. So you'd connect, load the content you wanted to see, disconnect, and then just sit there and read it for free, inste…

I'm not sure that was the use-case. With pre-DHTML HTML4, there really just wasn't anything on a page that could continue to interact with the server after the page finished loading. So, presuming the button was for your described use-case, what would the difference be between "going offline" and just... not clicking any more links? (It's not like Netscape could or should signal your modem to hang up — Netscape doesn't know what else in your OS might also be using the modem.)
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