Ableton Live 11

As a UI and UX nerd, one thing I really love about the digital music production scene is that software companies writing DAWs and VSTs know their audience and strive to give power users all the tools they need to be as productive as possible. Knobs, curves, programming (Max for Live), integration with external tools.

In other fields of software development instead we dumb everything down to the lowest denominator, and power users can't be at their most productive because we're scared of complexity and build around the casual, computer illiterate user.

Imagine what Ableton would look like if they were only optimising for the user that wants to put a couple of pre-made loops together and call it a song.

Re: Ableton Live 11

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Post by salimmadjd » Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 3:37 PM UTC

breakfastduck wrote: post #3

They did it. They finally added comping. I would be buying the upgrade if that was the only feature but there's so many!

For someone like me who uses Logic, is there a reason to use Ableton? Logic is only one $200 lifetime fee

Re: Ableton Live 11

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Post by nfoz » Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 3:38 PM UTC

breakfastduck wrote: post #3

They did it. They finally added comping. I would be buying the upgrade if that was the only feature but there's so many!

What is "comping"?

Re: Ableton Live 11

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Post by _fs » Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 3:39 PM UTC

nfoz wrote: post #6

breakfastduck wrote: post #3

They did it. They finally added comping. I would be buying the upgrade if that was the only feature but there's so many!

What is "comping"?

Multiple takes intermixed on a single track. https://www.ableton.com/en/live/#comping

Re: Ableton Live 11

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Post by XzAeRosho » Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 3:41 PM UTC

nfoz wrote: post #6

breakfastduck wrote: post #3

They did it. They finally added comping. I would be buying the upgrade if that was the only feature but there's so many!

What is "comping"?

Recording different takes, and then piece different parts of those takes and create one final "perfect" take.

Re: Ableton Live 11

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Post by lostgame » Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 3:41 PM UTC

breakfastduck wrote: post #3

They did it. They finally added comping. I would be buying the upgrade if that was the only feature but there's so many!

Seriously. That alone has been one of the big things keeping me firmly in Logic Pro's camp.

I'm also glad they're starting to add more instruments to the default package (notably, finally; a proper 'Upright Piano') - as the value proposition of Ableton Standard at $400 vs Logic Pro at $200 has been extremely one-sided in Logic's favour for many, many years now.

I do understand, of course; I'm strictly speaking as a Mac user. I honestly have no idea about the DAW landscape for PC's. I am extremely reliant on exporting songs from GarageBand on my iPhone as I create beats on the go quite often - and opening those .garageband files in Logic Pro to seriously hone in on the sounds, keeping the original instruments and MIDI intact. It's an irreplaceable ecosystem for me.

Re: Ableton Live 11

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Post by toomanybeersies » Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 3:43 PM UTC

sph wrote: post #4

As a UI and UX nerd, one thing I really love about the digital music production scene is that software companies writing DAWs and VSTs know their audience and strive to give power users all the tools they need to be as productive as possible. Knobs, curves, programming (Max for Live), integration with external tools. In other fields of software development instead we dumb everything down to the lowest denominator, an…

> Imagine what Ableton would look like if they were only optimising for the user that wants to put a couple of pre-made loops together and call it a song.

It would look a lot like FL Studio, which caters more towards that end of the market.