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I got a tripod and use my iPhone’s rear facing camera and I’m really happy with the setup.

What software are you using to pull it off? I want to do it too, but don’t want to choose between 3rd-party apps. I wish it were built-in to the OS, like AirPlay and Sidecar are...

I wish it were built in too but at the moment I'm using a program called Camo. https://reincubate.com/camo/

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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> How are companies still releasing hardware with 8GB RAM? 8GB is a huge amount of RAM. I cannot imagine writing a serious program that needs more than 2% of that. The real problem is programmers using "frameworks" and shit that requires inordinate amounts of unused memory.

Do you only ever run a single process in some non-multitasking OS? The rest of us are using Linux, Windows and MacOS, where many processes run side by side, each with memory requirements.

Not op, but my main laptop is a 2013 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM. It’s old enough to have developed dead pixels, the backlight is now noticeably uneven, the USB ports have become loose, several keys now only work unreliability, and it now does an emergency low power shutdown when the battery reports 55%.

(Naturally this means it is now permanently plugged into mains power and an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse).

Yet the RAM is still sufficient for my use of macOS, dozens of Chrome and Safari tabs, Xcode, TextWrangler, iTunes, etc.

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Lots and lots of people use their laptops in a way where there's little to no noticeable difference between 8GB and 16GB RAM. Why should those people pay extra for something they don't need? I think the HN crowd - with 4 docker VMs, 3 electron apps, 50 Chrome tabs, ML training, long compile times, etc - need to realize that their workloads and needs are not representative of the majority of users. It's ok for Apple t…

Uhm. Adding 16GB RAM instead of 8GB costs almost nothing and which by far and large, is useful to all users. The only reason why they ship 8 GBs is because they want to sell you upgrades, similar to why Apple products come with miniscule SSD hard drives. Certainly, only professionals would need something like 512GBs right?

Almost nothing if you buy a PC. Look at the markups for a RAM upgrade in Macs, it’s gut wrenchingly greedy.

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So, a locked bootloader with someone else's public key as the only one trusted? Can you even call that a computer?

Apple no longer makes general-purpose computers. They only make pretty, locked-down, computerlike appliances. The margins on general-purpose computers are simply too thin to sustain a $1T company.

Maybe, just maybe, it shouldn't be a $1T company? Maybe it should once again become a company that puts its customers and their experience before profits?

People are frustrated with technology lately. Even non-tech people. Apple has everything it would need to change that, but it decides to contribute to technology becoming ever more frustrating time and time again instead.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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I don't see people mentioning it here, but the Pro machine only supports one external display. People have called the sales rep to confirm and this is indeed the case. This is kind of bad news for the Pro machine.

Entry-level pro? Devaluing the "pro" moniker? The latter isn't new though, they've had to spend years in R&D to try and reinvent the Mac Pro for example.

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Do you only ever run a single process in some non-multitasking OS? The rest of us are using Linux, Windows and MacOS, where many processes run side by side, each with memory requirements.

I run regressions on half a million data points. My 2017 Macbook Pro with (checks) 8 Gb of RAM works fine. I'm not sure what all you guys' mothers are doing.

Half a million data points sounds like a lot but it's smaller than a 1k texture. RAM for integrated graphics is VRAM too, just to render to the screen you need a ton of it, for every open window.

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Apple no longer makes general-purpose computers. They only make pretty, locked-down, computerlike appliances. The margins on general-purpose computers are simply too thin to sustain a $1T company.

Maybe, just maybe, it shouldn't be a $1T company? Maybe it should once again become a company that puts its customers and their experience before profits? People are frustrated with technology lately. Even non-tech people. Apple has everything it would need to change that, but it decides to contribute to technology becoming ever more frustrating time and time again instead.

Agreed. But I can't think of an example of a company that ever voluntarily downsized. Downsizing usually happens because a new competitor arises that makes a product customers prefer. That's a very difficult proposition in the personal computer space.

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Do you only ever run a single process in some non-multitasking OS? The rest of us are using Linux, Windows and MacOS, where many processes run side by side, each with memory requirements.

Not op, but my main laptop is a 2013 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM. It’s old enough to have developed dead pixels, the backlight is now noticeably uneven, the USB ports have become loose, several keys now only work unreliability, and it now does an emergency low power shutdown when the battery reports 55%. (Naturally this means it is now permanently plugged into mains power and an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse)…

Your use is probably shaped by the limit, though. I mean, a few tabs open in Chrome is easily a couple of GBs alone.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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I'll be sticking with my 2015 Macbook Pro Retina 13". Great machine, not too thin, heavy enough, no stupid touch screen, usb ports, great keyboard. Everything apple has done since hasn't compared.

You are missing out if you don't have 4 USB-C ports in both sides of your laptop. You can charge your laptop and connect a display with a single cable and without caring about putting the computer in the right direction.

don't MacBook mysteriously run slower if you plug in power on the left side instead of the right? I don't remember the cause but I've personally experienced this handedness issue on my mac

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Something I haven’t seen commented on (it could certainly be here, just buried): all these models, in their previous Intel incarnation, only had integrated GPUs. It seems to me that at least one reason for why these particular models were released today is that Apple isn’t quite ready to release models with a discrete GPU (on ARM).

Many things are unclear. There's so much confusion right now.

- Will they ship a more advanced spec for the upper line? Something like a M1x, thus replacing the need for a third-party discrete GPU?

- Will they market these devices like they do with the iPhone: same Soc for every generation but with different sizes/extras (Macbook Air, Pro, Mac Mini just like you choose between an iPhone Mini, Pro, Max)?

- How long Intel-based machines will still be around? What they will do with the Mac Pro?

- How smooth will be the transition with OS/software (I expect it will take more than the two year planned) and how much it will change with this new ARM ecosystem?

As with any new first generation device from Apple, plus this vast, unknown land, I'd stay away from these machines and wait for at the least the next iteration (maybe two).

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