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Electron is cancer .. but Skype is native (for now, at least on Linux. Although I'm sure they'll switch to the Teams codebase and Skype native will disappear forever too)

Electron is recent. What are good and widely used cross platform application frameworks other than electron?

Qt?

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No, because that would make it an iPad. While I don’t see the need for a touchscreen on a laptop, I think Apple fear that it would hurt iPad sales.

An iPad with a good keyboard and an operating system that allows the user to do more things would be nice. Like running Linux for development, having a web browser that is not Safari inside, having to visual studio code...

Sure, but that’s not what the iPad is for in Apple mind.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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I have a Mac mini that still had upgradable ram, and was able to be kidded to add a second hard drive. I put 32 gigs of ran and an 1 tb ssd into it. I’ve had it for roughly 7 years. Any current Mac mini is a downgrade except in processor speed.

Would complain that nothing is built well / to last any more... but was recommended a NUC, and now it's my new Mini. Absolutely love it.

Enjoy that while it lasts... Hackintoshes are going to be a dying breed in two years.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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How are companies still releasing hardware with 8GB RAM? My MacBook Air from ~2016 has 8GB of RAM.

My first PC which had 8GB of RAM was built in ~2010 if I remember correctly. My current machine has 32GB. In all honesty, 32GB is not even much, considering my motherboard can take 128GB (in the old days, if your motherboard could take max 8GB RAM, people would fill all the slots to capacity). Also, I have a Lenovo machine that I paid $200 for that has 8GB RAM.

WHY any power user would buy a MacBook is beyond me. They've become devices that only my mother would use, not to get work done.

Apple should've made the baseline 32GB with 128GB as max spec. It would've forced the whole industry to give us more RAM. So for the next two years RAM will still be stagnant, all other manufacturers that copies Apple will indeed keep shipping 8GB without blinking.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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I guess they will also never bring back normal USB-3.1 ports.

Guess I will have to keep my $5000 camera plugged into my Ryzen-based PC, it has 6x USB-3.1 ports. Oh and my studio microphone is also "old" usb. And my keyboard/mouse. And my phone cable. And my expensive Corsair flashdrive. And my Seagate external hdd. And my memory card reader (I have 7 memory cards for different cameras). I can go on.

I'm not going to daisy-chain stuff. I'm not going to buy a dock (just another thing on my desk and take up another power socket, and more LED's burning nonstop). I'm not going to buy dongles to convert from one spec to another.

And no, I'm not going to convert everything to wireless. I have 1gbps fibre where I live, with a Asus router/modem sitting ontop of my PC, hooked up with 1gbps Ethernet cable. The 5GHz wifi is unstable if you don't sit in clear line of sight. I have a USB-3 to Ethernet dongle for my laptops but the fastest one achieves 800mbps and chows about 10% cpu when downloading something. ~2016 MacBook air gets 600mpbs with the same dongle.

Apple could've fix their port/dongle/dock mess this time around but chose not to.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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I guess they will also never bring back normal USB-3.1 ports. Guess I will have to keep my $5000 camera plugged into my Ryzen-based PC, it has 6x USB-3.1 ports. Oh and my studio microphone is also "old" usb. And my keyboard/mouse. And my phone cable. And my expensive Corsair flashdrive. And my Seagate external hdd. And my memory card reader (I have 7 memory cards for different cameras). I can go on. I'm not going to…

Adding USB-3.1 back now will only serve to confuse customers and 3rd party device/accessory manufacturers.

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When I was a kid I worked with my father building custom cars. We customized a car for the guy who owned a famous brand of liquor. He had a vanity license plate on one of his cars that said something like "3 Stars" on it and I asked him what that stood for. He said it was less expensive brand of the liquor he sold and then he went on to say "it's the same as the expensive stuff and if you tell anyone that they'll cal…

From my experience, the touchpad and OS experience is decidedly better. This is a subjective judgement, but anecdotally I've heard it from many people.

Well, we're talking about hardware here, or at least I was.

I love my late `09 Mac Mini. Best Mac I've owned yet, but for the same amount we'll pay for a new one we could probably build our own Linux box with much better specs.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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I really don't get it. How much difference could 8 to 16gb be in terms of price? Is Apple really doing this to save 20$ per machine? Even if you somehow could argue that 8 is all you need now, what about in few years? No one should ever buy this device.

> Even if you somehow could argue that 8 is all you need now, what about in few years? What about it? It's not like someone who mostly browses the web, checks email, works with office documents, and so on, will change what he does in a few years...

The large consumer market that uses mac for common computing activities will not need more soon, perhaps, but many of Apple's bulwark clients - graphic designers, musicians, and even developers - probably will.

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I backed a game a while ago on Kickstarter with native support for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Several weeks ago they sent us a message saying they were ditching the MacOS version due the architecture change. I wonder how it'll affect the whole ecosystem. I think it'll end being like an iOS on steroids.

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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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How are companies still releasing hardware with 8GB RAM? My MacBook Air from ~2016 has 8GB of RAM. My first PC which had 8GB of RAM was built in ~2010 if I remember correctly. My current machine has 32GB. In all honesty, 32GB is not even much, considering my motherboard can take 128GB (in the old days, if your motherboard could take max 8GB RAM, people would fill all the slots to capacity). Also, I have a Lenovo mach…

This is a confusing comment. If your mother doesn't need more than 8GB RAM, why should she have to pay for more? It's not as though you can't order more if you want it.

It wouldn't force the industry to offer more. It would just mean purchasers such as your mother wouldn't buy a Mac.

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