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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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It is definitely an adequate base spec. What would the random MacBook user fill 16GB of RAM with?

Chrome, Slack, Docker. Pick 1 (and only 1)!

At least for Slack there's would be the iOS version available.

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Not sure the downvoting ... Even with 16, 32gb of ram, Android phones still don’t have buttery smooth 60 FPS while iOS has never been smoother

You're confusing CPU and memory pressure, and attributing blame to the wrong component. Android's lack of smoothness is due to thread contention, whereas the iOS kernel uses a dedicated UI thread running at high priority. RAM size has no impact on UI performance, beyond a sufficient amount for the kernel.

To add on to this, the person you are replying to is also quite wrong. Android devices definitely can be smooth and many go past 60hz now and have higher refresh rates than Apple products.

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Having bought a Macbook Pro with an Esc key earlier this year, lack of an Esc key was 90% of my issue with the touch bar. My biggest issue now is when I accidentally activate it. I didn't have an issue accidentally hitting the function keys on my 2013, so why not bring those back? Or invent something new. Forward or back, I don't care, just admit the touch bar was a dud and get it off my keyboard. EDIT: My mother als…

I remapped escape to caps lock to overcome this, it might work for others who don't use caps lock.

It's absurd that you had to resort to this. I wonder if someone also released a standalone bluetooth escape key that attaches to the side of a keyboard (equally absurd).

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I don't know the answer^, but how old is your current old Mac hardware? I don't know about the desktops, but Macbooks from 2016 are not well supported hardware-wise in Linux - things like no WiFi even. There was a good GitHub repo tracking it for up to I think the first touchbar Pro, and basically it was dismal then and only got worse (according to repo owner who consequently stopped bothering iirc). So.. depending w…

I have a MacBookPro15,2 (2019, with T2), on which I duel boot Arch Linux. It is perfectly usable. The hardware support is not great. In particular, resuming from suspend is very slow, and I haven't gotten the built-in mic to work. And getting the system to work did require using a patched Linux kernel installed from Github. So not easy, but possible. Your claims about "dismal then and only got worse" are unfounded. T…

Am I wrong to think the T2 means Linux can't access the built in hard drive and you are dual booting from an external drive?

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Is there a market for aftermarket coolers on MBA?

There's a market for aftermarket coolers on laptops universally - I sometimes see laptops on those fan pads?

A quality laptop fan pad is about $20-$30.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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When I was a kid I worked with my father building custom cars. We customized a car for the guy who owned a famous brand of liquor. He had a vanity license plate on one of his cars that said something like "3 Stars" on it and I asked him what that stood for. He said it was less expensive brand of the liquor he sold and then he went on to say "it's the same as the expensive stuff and if you tell anyone that they'll call you a liar, but take it from me, it's the same stuff". And he was right. I did tell people and those who purchased his expensive brand flat out insisted I was wrong.

Apple can charge more because they always have and people will buy it because they believe it's better.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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When I was a kid I worked with my father building custom cars. We customized a car for the guy who owned a famous brand of liquor. He had a vanity license plate on one of his cars that said something like "3 Stars" on it and I asked him what that stood for. He said it was less expensive brand of the liquor he sold and then he went on to say "it's the same as the expensive stuff and if you tell anyone that they'll cal…

From my experience, the touchpad and OS experience is decidedly better. This is a subjective judgement, but anecdotally I've heard it from many people.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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I don't understand the pricing of the MacBook Air vs the 13" Pro. The Air ($1249) vs 13" Pro ($1299), you get: - same CPU - same GPU - same Neural chip - same RAM (8gb) - More storage for the Air (512gb vs 256gb with 13" Pro) - You get Touch Bar with 13" Pro So if you don't care about the Touch Bar, you actually get with the Air: - better specs - smaller device footprint - and $50 cheaper. Am I missing something?

Perhaps this pricing was brought about by the same head injury that caused someone in management to believe 8GB is an adequate base spec for RAM in 2020.

Not everyone is you.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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It is definitely an adequate base spec. What would the random MacBook user fill 16GB of RAM with?

I have Firefox, Slack, MS Team, MS Word, MS Excel, and Onenote opened. The world's most boring office worker use case. I know it's a deceptive metric but Task Manager shows 12.5GB "In Use". 16.2 Committed. Each Firefox tab has between 250mb and 1g "Memory (Active Working Area)". HUUUUUGeeeee long tail of 100MB trailing down to 20MB services and things. Adobe has half a dozen at all times, etc etc etc. I'm game to use…

Those apps will use memory as they are given it, for the most part.
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