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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by na85 »

submeta wrote: post #479
AnonHP wrote: post #140

Apple mentioned in the event that these Macs will have hardware verified secure boot. Since I’m not very knowledgeable in this area, can someone explain (or even try to guess) what this would/could mean for running Linux on these? I use Macs way beyond Apple’s support timeframe with OS X/macOS, and Linux is the one that runs on some of the older Macs and provides adequate security and security related software update…

Oh Apple, why are you doing this, taking freedom from your customers. I don‘t want to use Windows, neither do I want to tinker with Ubuntu. But if you keep going that path, you are forcing your power users to think about migrating to platforms that respect users freedom to do whatever they want to do with their machines. After two years of using an otherwise beautiful iPad Pro (along with my MBP) I came to realize th…

>Oh Apple, why are you doing this, taking freedom from your customers

Because they can. Most other laptop manufacturers are producing garbage. Vaunted brands like Thinkpad and Dell are even failing to keep pace.

My wife's 2019 Dell XPS 13 is awful to use. The touchpad is horrendous, and I'm not buying Lenovo after the Superfish thing.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by spartanatreyu »

Aloisius wrote: post #586
callamdelaney wrote: post #150

I'll be sticking with my 2015 Macbook Pro Retina 13". Great machine, not too thin, heavy enough, no stupid touch screen, usb ports, great keyboard. Everything apple has done since hasn't compared.

> not too thin, heavy enough Wait. What? I can honestly say that I've never thought to myself that a laptop was too thin or too light.

If a laptop is too thin and doesn't have weights in it, just having it in your lap while lightly typing makes it wobble around like a boat in a storm.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by johnisgood »

snazz wrote: post #506
robotmay wrote: post #493

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Chrome?

I don’t do any tab-hoarding in Chrome (that’s the job of Safari on my machine), but I’m pretty sure that it will suspend tabs long before you run out of RAM. 8 GB is still plenty for web browsing.

Yeah, but I need both browser + IntelliJ. I run out of 8 GB pretty damn quickly.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by bzbarsky »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #582
baggy_trough wrote: post #464

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Not having the Touch Bar is worth at least several hundred dollars.

Yeah, so i don't accidentally trigger Siri all. the. time.

You can solve that problem by going into keyboard settings and changing the "Touch Bar shows" setting to "Expanded Control Strip". Or "F1, F2, etc. keys" if you prefer. Whichever one you set, holding down the "fn" key will temporarily toggle to the other one.

You still don't get the same feel as physical keys, but no Siri, no sliders to adjust volume or brightness, no stuff shifting around as you switch apps.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by aj_icracked »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #582
baggy_trough wrote: post #464

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Not having the Touch Bar is worth at least several hundred dollars.

Yeah, so i don't accidentally trigger Siri all. the. time.

You can disable the siri in Touch Bar and configure it to have the buttons you want. We do that to every new laptop we give our team, it's great.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by jcelerier »

ibejoeb wrote: post #577
wlesieutre wrote: post #566

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Slack, Whatsapp, Discord, and Skype, pick any two and I don't think it's unusual.

Never measured whatsapp but it's really pretty performant. Is it heavy? Slack and discord, on the other hand, are real drags.

> Never measured whatsapp but it's really pretty performant

are we really talking about the same whatsapp ? it takes a good 4 seconds to load here. I don't remember ever waiting for MSN Messenger to load, on potato-powered computers.

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Post by ramenmeal »

iwasakabukiman wrote: post #574
shakow wrote: post #489

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It is definitely an adequate base spec. What would the random MacBook user fill 16GB of RAM with?

For a $1,000 laptop? I disagree. It’s fine for a $500 one but Apple doesn’t sell those.

That $500 difference goes towards a higher quality product with good support, not necessarily just system specs.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by rdw »

Aloisius wrote: post #586
callamdelaney wrote: post #150

I'll be sticking with my 2015 Macbook Pro Retina 13". Great machine, not too thin, heavy enough, no stupid touch screen, usb ports, great keyboard. Everything apple has done since hasn't compared.

> not too thin, heavy enough Wait. What? I can honestly say that I've never thought to myself that a laptop was too thin or too light.

The Macbooks that were for many years the smallest and lightest Apple laptops, would be imbalanced and knocked off your lap by placing your hands on it slightly asymmetrically.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by my123 »

grishka wrote: post #288
Asmod4n wrote: post #168

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No Bootcamp for Apple Silicon Macs, you can't install any other Operating System on it. But you can run arm linux in a virtual machine.

So, a locked bootloader with someone else's public key as the only one trusted? Can you even call that a computer?

The bootloader is not locked, why continuing to claim that over and over when Apple talked about it at WWDC?

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by skohan »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #582
baggy_trough wrote: post #464

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Not having the Touch Bar is worth at least several hundred dollars.

Yeah, so i don't accidentally trigger Siri all. the. time.

I don't understand how this didn't come up in usability testing
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