NYT decided to go all in on left leaning, all anti Trump all the time, and even then some of their readers think they are carrying water for Trump.
Hmm I don't really see any evidence of this
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#12This is a good question: should news media like NYT report news without any political biases? Or is it OK for them to pick a side while reporting (progressive, liberal vs conservative etc). If it is OK for media to report news with a bias, then will that accelerate the echo chambers across the political spectrum where news media only report on angles they favor? Just wanted to raise this for discussion.
It is impossible to report news without bias. Instead, publications and journalists should strive to be honest about what their biases are, and to do what they can to correct for them.
Perfect unbiasedness is impossible.
But there is a huge difference between those who try to be unbiased, and those who don't.
BTW, what are good examples of journalists being honest about their biases?
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#13I have a simpler explanation for media failure. Huge job cuts. Many journalists are now doing work of multiple positions in many places especially online media. New York Times has reduced the number of their total editors in the last 10 years for example. Every major online media had layoffs comparable to 10% of their total workforce in the last 5 years. It affects mid level journalists the most so there are more int…
I agree with your analysis. Watching the last season of The Wire it really struck home the incentive structures, and how News organizations are ultimately businesses that are beholden to financial interests.
A business that unfortunately has lost its viability, which is how we've ended up in this current predicament.
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#14NYT decided to go all in on left leaning, all anti Trump all the time, and even then some of their readers think they are carrying water for Trump.
No they didn’t. They are left leaning only in specific neo liberal ways.
> They are left leaning only in specific neo liberal ways.
They are only left-leaning in specific center-right ways?
Neoliberalism isn't a left ideology.
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#15I have a simpler explanation for media failure. Huge job cuts. Many journalists are now doing work of multiple positions in many places especially online media. New York Times has reduced the number of their total editors in the last 10 years for example. Every major online media had layoffs comparable to 10% of their total workforce in the last 5 years. It affects mid level journalists the most so there are more int…
Did you read the article? The Times now employs more people than it ever has and is doing better financially than ever.
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#16I have a simpler explanation for media failure. Huge job cuts. Many journalists are now doing work of multiple positions in many places especially online media. New York Times has reduced the number of their total editors in the last 10 years for example. Every major online media had layoffs comparable to 10% of their total workforce in the last 5 years. It affects mid level journalists the most so there are more int…
While that seems intiutive that NYT is being sidestepped by free sources, they are in fact doing very well as a business and reporting record profits. They have no debt, in fact through cash on hand and lines of credit they have access to over a billion dollars. They bought out their headquarters in midtown manhattan. Their stock price is near all time highs.
People pay for quality. It's why people still pay for services like HBO instead of watching free content on youtube.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/05/business/media/new-york-t...
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#17I have a simpler explanation for media failure. Huge job cuts. Many journalists are now doing work of multiple positions in many places especially online media. New York Times has reduced the number of their total editors in the last 10 years for example. Every major online media had layoffs comparable to 10% of their total workforce in the last 5 years. It affects mid level journalists the most so there are more int…
Did you read the story? NYT newsroom is bigger than ever, it has more cash than ever and has increased it's amount of subscribers several-fold
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#18This is a good question: should news media like NYT report news without any political biases? Or is it OK for them to pick a side while reporting (progressive, liberal vs conservative etc). If it is OK for media to report news with a bias, then will that accelerate the echo chambers across the political spectrum where news media only report on angles they favor? Just wanted to raise this for discussion.
No. They should disclose their biases though. It's a business. Why would you sell something that no one is buying?
If I started a news site, I would target the audience with bigger pockets and more comfortable with subscribing to online services (many people are resistant). That would be people living in expensive cities.
Even if you are a non-profit, you are still beholden to your donators. Mozilla can't go ape shit on Google.
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#19I have a simpler explanation for media failure. Huge job cuts. Many journalists are now doing work of multiple positions in many places especially online media. New York Times has reduced the number of their total editors in the last 10 years for example. Every major online media had layoffs comparable to 10% of their total workforce in the last 5 years. It affects mid level journalists the most so there are more int…
It occurs to me that as we become more and more connected globally the less there will be a need for the media. Hear me out: let’s take this to the limit of our ability to communicate. Let’s say that we develop a direct interface between the brain and the Internet via some sort of implantable chip. Any information you want to know becomes instantly knowable in your brain. Moreover, you can request info about certain topics a la a curated Twitter feed. If an earthquake happens in Japan or new Oscar nominees are announced, you know about it soon as you think about it or think about “I wonder what has been happening today?” And of course all the information is gathered in aggregators that automatically verify that multiple people did witness the particular event to verify authenticity.
Under these conditions it becomes unnecessary for someone to do the basic legwork of seeking out stories and curating them, no? Interpreting the stories of course does require someone’s time and energy, but for example there would be no need to go and investigate what is happening with the earthquake rescue because the first responders could effortlessly share their thoughts/experiences, the person in charge could instantly add their voice to the info stream telling everyone what the clean up/rescue plans are, etc. What role would a newspaper play in a setup like this?
Now, we aren’t there yet. We are not a hive mind and sharing what we are witnessing takes time and effort. A first responder isn’t going to stop and tweet about what’s going on. And the even bigger hurdle is consuming this much information. That problem hasn’t been solved yet. But we are closer to that than not: Twitter and Reddit allow regular people to share what they are seeing: earthquakes, protests, awards ceremonies, graduations. Curation will only get better. Whereas before only the select few had a voice because it was expensive, now almost anyone can broadcast to a huge swath of humanity.
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#20I have a simpler explanation for media failure. Huge job cuts. Many journalists are now doing work of multiple positions in many places especially online media. New York Times has reduced the number of their total editors in the last 10 years for example. Every major online media had layoffs comparable to 10% of their total workforce in the last 5 years. It affects mid level journalists the most so there are more int…
While that seems intiutive that NYT is being sidestepped by free sources, they are in fact doing very well as a business and reporting record profits. They have no debt, in fact through cash on hand and lines of credit they have access to over a billion dollars. They bought out their headquarters in midtown manhattan. Their stock price is near all time highs. People pay for quality. It's why people still pay for serv…
https://www.statista.com/statistics/192848/revenue-of-the-ne...
That's only for digital which is well expected to grow. They still have to catch up to their historical revenue.