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Eleven Years of Go

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Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by alquemist »

Groxx wrote: post #86
alquemist wrote: post #70

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Can you please share some examples of the harder spots?

Both have at least one shared issue which makes 2+ error wrapping noisy or nasty: func whatev() (err error) { defer helper(&err, "mightFail context to help debugging", some, vars) try(mightFail()) defer helper(&err, "alsoMightFail context to help debugging", some, vars) try(alsoMightFail()) } if the second call fails, your error has now been wrapped twice . There are of course ways to deal with this. You can add a "a…

Thanks, appreciated. Your example rhymes with u/jhoechtl remark that there is no standardized way to manage stack traces, aka stacked error contexts. Perhaps the Golang elves will come up with an elegant solution. By 2025 :)

Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by irishcule »

asim wrote: post #90
irishcule wrote: post #85

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>Go is a phenomenal language and I'm not really sure where I'd be without it, my company basically wouldn't exist, I wouldn't be solving the problems I am. I don't want this to come across as negative but I really don't get this. Can you expand upon this if you don't mind? What is it about Go specifically that you make claims like that? Realistically couldn't you have done everything you did in Go, in say Java or som…

No. Without the existence of Go, I would not have gotten my last job, we would not have built the platform we did, I would not have seen the opportunity and ability to build such a business. It's all a chain of events that occur because a technology exists that enables it. If Go didn't exist my path would be very different.

Ah ok, I misunderstood your comment. Glad to hear Go has had such a big impact for you.

Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by jjice »

Sean-Der wrote: post #31

I am super happy that I invested in Go. I ended up working on TURN, WebRTC and DTLS and feel I made the right choice. The impact vs time spent was worth it. I don't think there is any other language I would have had a better experience. Either it is too niche, or it is so popular that the community is anemic. * https://github.com/pion/dtls * https://github.com/pion/webrtc * https://github.com/pion/turn Go is really g…

I ran into Pion when looking for a good example implemention of a TURN server. Your code is a great read, especially for something with so little documentation relative to its use.

Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by domano »

Go has been a career kickstarter for me and gambling on it for a multi year ecommerce project was a hit, for me at least. I switched from so-so Java dev to Senior Dev, Go Trainer and Systems Architect and Go played a very big part.

It has its' shortcomings, but what i have learned due to just writing stuff instead of using enterprise frameworks was eye opening and i would be a comoletely different lerson today.

Thank you dear Go team & community!

Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by _wldu »

chimeracoder wrote: post #49
Sean-Der wrote: post #31

I am super happy that I invested in Go. I ended up working on TURN, WebRTC and DTLS and feel I made the right choice. The impact vs time spent was worth it. I don't think there is any other language I would have had a better experience. Either it is too niche, or it is so popular that the community is anemic. * https://github.com/pion/dtls * https://github.com/pion/webrtc * https://github.com/pion/turn Go is really g…

> The most frustrating thing about Go isn't even the language, it is the community for me. It is very business/corporate focused. Everything is all about Kubernetes/cloud. I apply for conferences/meetups non-stop, but never have any luck. It is always the same company reps. I am envious of the Rust community here, but maybe grass is always greener on the other side? As someone who's been writing Go full-time for over…

I very much agree with this. Rust is to C++ what Go is to Java. I think the fact that Go compiles to native binaries and can be linked statically are the primary reasons it is often compared to system languages like Rust or C++. But really, it's not the same type of language.

Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by alienspaces »

domano wrote: post #94

Go has been a career kickstarter for me and gambling on it for a multi year ecommerce project was a hit, for me at least. I switched from so-so Java dev to Senior Dev, Go Trainer and Systems Architect and Go played a very big part. It has its' shortcomings, but what i have learned due to just writing stuff instead of using enterprise frameworks was eye opening and i would be a comoletely different lerson today. Thank…

I can second this. From being proficient in multiple languages to then picking up Go for primarily API service's I'm not looking back. It has taken a little while to level up to expert but the effort in learning how to build from the ground up by not using a framework is well worth it!

Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by jmg_ »

x87678r wrote: post #79
brundolf wrote: post #74

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There's a big gap in trends between new-wave "tech companies" and "enterprise companies". It's hard to cleanly define these categories aside from culture, but Go is plenty popular in the former (along with lots of other languages), and Java remains prevalent in the latter. Sounds like maybe Python spans both.

If I look for golang jobs in NYC I see just one job in the whole city. Sure a few more in the surrounding area and a bunch remote, but just one job. https://www.dice.com/jobs?q=golang&location=New%20York%20Cit... , NY,%20USA

1) Due to covid its highly likely that many of the companies in NY are listing as remote rather than NY-based.

2) Just an opinion, but I would guess the majority of companies on Dice would trend towards older tech stacks. My employer has 4 open Go positions but is not found on Dice.

- Angel.co shows 10 Go-related jobs in NYC

- Linkedin shows 293 Go-related jobs in NYC

Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by lanstin »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #89
throwaway894345 wrote: post #64

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I got started with the Go tour: https://tour.golang.org You'll get a feel for the language constructs. Once you're ready to graduate to tinkering with your own stuff, then go install Go: https://golang.org/doc/install Some noted differences from C# (my C# knowledge is 5-10 years out of date, mind you): * Go is a much simpler language; it lacks classes, inheritance, generics, exceptions, etc--you can be productive in…

Oof, sorry for the formatting. Missed the edit window. One last characterization: Go is like C with a GC, package management(and other sane tooling), and many other rough edges removed.

Plus an awesome multi-core solution.

Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by premek »

I'd like to hear some Java devs opinions on Go.

On one hand I'd like to try and learn something new,

on the other hand, everything I could do in go I would probably do better in java (as in I know how to do it already)

Re: Eleven Years of Go

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Post by throwaway894345 »

lanstin wrote: post #98
throwaway894345 wrote: post #89

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Oof, sorry for the formatting. Missed the edit window. One last characterization: Go is like C with a GC, package management(and other sane tooling), and many other rough edges removed.

Plus an awesome multi-core solution.

Pretty sure .Net does fine with multicore, or at least to the extent that it doesn't, it's down to excessive sharing/mutation resulting from OO design patterns (modulo "that's not True OO!" arguments, anyway).
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