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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by coredog64 »

nicoburns wrote: post #338
Thorentis wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also have this one. It was my first macbook, and I think I got really lucky with getting in when I did. Been going strong for 5 years, and has no difficulty doing anything I need it to do. Only thing I wish I did was get more storage (only got the 128GB model).

FYI the storage is upgradable on these machines (and it's very straightforward to do). It's a nonstandard SSD interface, but you can official modules 2nd hand on ebay quite cheaply these days.

$20 will get you an adapter that allows standard m2 NVMe. I have one on my Amazon wishlist, just haven’t pulled the trigger yet.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by dkarl »

vmarsy wrote: post #59
SamuelAdams wrote: post #6

Super interesting how they kept the touchbar on the Macbook Pro keyboard but not on the Air. As a software developer, I'm going to be more likely to buy an Air just due to the keyboard.

They kept the touch bar but it seems that they added (back) a physical Esc key, isn't that the most criticized missing key? Which other key do you miss now that Esc is back?

Having bought a Macbook Pro with an Esc key earlier this year, lack of an Esc key was 90% of my issue with the touch bar. My biggest issue now is when I accidentally activate it. I didn't have an issue accidentally hitting the function keys on my 2013, so why not bring those back? Or invent something new. Forward or back, I don't care, just admit the touch bar was a dud and get it off my keyboard.

EDIT: My mother also says she gets distracting autocomplete suggestions on the touch bar while she's typing. I vaguely remember doing something to turn that off on mine, but she is terrified of Covid so I haven't had a chance to get at her laptop and fix it for her. I don't know what human factors genius at Apple decided it would be helpful for people to see words hopping around at the edge of their vision while they're trying to type.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by ericmay »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #354

Straw poll: I need a new development machine, price is not an object but it has to be a Mac. Should I buy this new M1 or go with the Intel 16 inch MBP? My gut says there’s going to be a year or two of cross-compilation nightmares. I do a lot of Docker-based development. Wondering what everyone else thinks?

If you need something new yea I'd go with the Intel MBP right now.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by vbezhenar »

protomyth wrote: post #249

Looks like the Mac mini no longer has the ability to have a 10GBe Ethernet port. So, we could get 64GB of RAM and 10GBe in the last generation, and now this.

They still sell Intel version, it's not gone. Also I think that there will be USB dongles for 10GBe Ethernet which is not as convenient, for sure, but bearable. And RAM limit is unfortunate indeed. I wouldn't buy 8GB RAM in 2020 at all and 16GB is barely enough, so this device won't last long given the lack of upgradability. Probably better RAM options will come next year.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by seunosewa »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #354

Straw poll: I need a new development machine, price is not an object but it has to be a Mac. Should I buy this new M1 or go with the Intel 16 inch MBP? My gut says there’s going to be a year or two of cross-compilation nightmares. I do a lot of Docker-based development. Wondering what everyone else thinks?

For development, definitely the Intel. Most Macs in use would be Intel Macs for a while.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by dstick »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #354

Straw poll: I need a new development machine, price is not an object but it has to be a Mac. Should I buy this new M1 or go with the Intel 16 inch MBP? My gut says there’s going to be a year or two of cross-compilation nightmares. I do a lot of Docker-based development. Wondering what everyone else thinks?

Go for the 16 inch. I’ve upgraded from my 2015 model (couldn’t stand the butterfly keys) and the wait was worth it! Great keyboard, physical escape key, 16 threads, large screen - great machine. It took them 5 years to get there so don’t get your hopes up for this new one ;-)

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by 0x008 »

Thorentis wrote: post #277
callamdelaney wrote: post #150

I'll be sticking with my 2015 Macbook Pro Retina 13". Great machine, not too thin, heavy enough, no stupid touch screen, usb ports, great keyboard. Everything apple has done since hasn't compared.

Also have this one. It was my first macbook, and I think I got really lucky with getting in when I did. Been going strong for 5 years, and has no difficulty doing anything I need it to do. Only thing I wish I did was get more storage (only got the 128GB model).

You can buy a $20 adapter on Amazon and stick any m.2 nvme ssd in there.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by porcc »

lisper wrote: post #339
Thorentis wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also have this one. It was my first macbook, and I think I got really lucky with getting in when I did. Been going strong for 5 years, and has no difficulty doing anything I need it to do. Only thing I wish I did was get more storage (only got the 128GB model).

You can upgrade the SSD yourself with a kit from OWC.

Don't do this, use an NVMe adapter, lets you use faster/cheaper/bigger normal SSDs. I have one myself and it works perfectly.

PS also don't waste your time trying to find ways to repurpose the old Mac SSD, an equivalent SSD or flash drive is cheaper than the enclosures

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by eyelidlessness »

threeseed wrote: post #201
AnonHP wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a tangential note, there were reports about the Intel based MacBook Pro from earlier this year having CPU usage spikes and heating issues when charging from the left side port. For users with this problem, it was effectively “charge using the right side port”.

As a MacBook Pro owner this is nonsense. It throttles badly and overheats no matter which side you charge on. Actually surprised it didn't get more attention. If you're downloading and charging at the same time then your computer is unusable.

I definitely get more heat and throttling powering on the left side than the right, on my 2019 16”. There are quite a lot of people who have reported the same, for all models which have USB-c ports on both sides. If you’re not seeing a difference, it’s pretty likely your workload or some background process is still pushing the thermal limits of your machine.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by sgt »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #354

Straw poll: I need a new development machine, price is not an object but it has to be a Mac. Should I buy this new M1 or go with the Intel 16 inch MBP? My gut says there’s going to be a year or two of cross-compilation nightmares. I do a lot of Docker-based development. Wondering what everyone else thinks?

As with anything brand new - wait for the 2nd version of it, especially if you are a power user.
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