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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by rbanffy »

ogre_codes wrote: post #173
dcchambers wrote: post #37

The 16GB RAM limit is unfortunate. Five years later and I still can't buy a new 13" laptop from Apple with more RAM than my 2015 MBP. Edit: Apparently you can configure a (Early 2020) Intel-based 13" MBP with 32GB of RAM - I was not aware of that. Hope they bring that option to the ARM versions ASAP, especially if the performance gains are as good as Apple claims.

This is almost certain to be temporary. Keep in mind the rollout of the new CPUs is a 2 year process.

If they started now. They've been working on this for some time.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by masklinn »

samjmck wrote: post #191
bochoh wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will only drive one 4k display at 60hz, I would imagine it would support multiple lower resolutions with no issues.

That would be weird. Thunderbolt 3 supports 2x 4K60, so this should as well.

OSX doesn’t support MST.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by acomjean »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #88
Darmody wrote: post #65

I backed a game a while ago on Kickstarter with native support for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Several weeks ago they sent us a message saying they were ditching the MacOS version due the architecture change. I wonder how it'll affect the whole ecosystem. I think it'll end being like an iOS on steroids.

I think their hope is that the Mac's anemic game ecosystem will be filled in by iOS games which run natively. I hope they're right, and I say that as someone who has a gaming PC and still hasn't found many quality core games on iOS.

The fact that they say it will run the iOS version of "among us" and HBO max, means I think your right.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by viscanti »

dcchambers wrote: post #37

The 16GB RAM limit is unfortunate. Five years later and I still can't buy a new 13" laptop from Apple with more RAM than my 2015 MBP. Edit: Apparently you can configure a (Early 2020) Intel-based 13" MBP with 32GB of RAM - I was not aware of that. Hope they bring that option to the ARM versions ASAP, especially if the performance gains are as good as Apple claims.

Do most people with MacBook Airs have workloads that require more than 16GB or ram or do they generally value a lower price point?

Cost, performance, light weight - pick two right? Apple seems to have picked a combination of lower cost and light weight. Customers who need more ram probably move up to a MBP.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by ARandomerDude »

jmisavage wrote: post #127
dcchambers wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely would have been a way to differentiate the Pro and the Air rather than giving them identical SOCs.

The low end Air only has 7 GPU cores compared with 8 on the one with more storage. So they must be disabling a bad core and selling it the cheap model. Other than that all these machines use the exact same CPUs. Which means that an iMac or 16" MBP are probably going to use a M1X or something with more cores.

> So they must be disabling a bad core and selling it the cheap model.

I really don't know much (anything) about the hardware manufacturing world. Is this a common practice?

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by ako »

blux wrote: post #194

Lots of comments from people complaining about the lack of 32GB of RAM. Can someone explain to me the need for 32GB of RAM as a developer? Is it the IDE or your particular application area? As for me, I do all my professional development (C++17/Linux, Vim, EDA industry) on a five year old T450s with 12GB of RAM. For me the limiting factor is CPU power for sure. I only run out of RAM running some of the larger custome…

Had a t470s (24Gb), now on a p1 gen 2 (32Gb). Even 24Gb can feel limited when running kubernetes, number of docker images, oracle rdbms, kafka, java development environment, a browser, office suite...

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by Shivetya »

What also stood out for me is how few big names they had for companies moving to Apple Silicon. I really did not recognize most of the companies they did highlight.

I had been hoping for a web page dedicated to showing all companies on board with products coming or expected in the next year

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by SamuelAdams »

AnonHP wrote: post #118
KMnO4 wrote: post #47

Surprisingly, the dealbreaker for me on this current generation is 2x TB3 ports on one side. I really like being able to charge from either side.

On a tangential note, there were reports about the Intel based MacBook Pro from earlier this year having CPU usage spikes and heating issues when charging from the left side port. For users with this problem, it was effectively “charge using the right side port”.

Yes, the original thread for this I believe is here: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/363337/how-to-find...

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by plorkyeran »

jedberg wrote: post #190
plorkyeran wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of them? I use the function keys regularly and it's much harder to hit the correct one without looking at the keyboard with the touch bar.

What do you use function keys for? I was thinking about this, and I don't think I've used a function key in years.

Step Over/Into/Out shortcuts in Xcode (F6/F7/F8) are the really obvious ones which I hit many times per day. Play/pause/etc. with the Fn key are easier to hit without looking than the touchbar.
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