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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by ogjunkyard »

marc11111 wrote: post #63
kbar13 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as a software dev who went for air before the current gen of pro macbooks with hardware esc, dont do it the air is really sluggish for anything but the lightest of tasks. there was even extremely noticeable latency using gmail.com

Agree for the current Macs. The new Air seems to have the same specs as the new 13" Pro though or is there a difference?

If you configured them the same (chose the more expensive Air), the Air and the 13" Pro have the exact same specs from what I can tell other than a slightly brighter screen (500 nits vs. 400 nits) and slightly bigger battery (58.2 whr vs. 49.9 whr) on the 13" Pro.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by saagarjha »

stevewodil wrote: post #147
saagarjha wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing it with the wrong computer.

What do you mean by this? The commenter is stating how the 2016-2019 MBP 13" had 4 thunderbolt ports, and this new one only has 2

Not every 13" MacBook Pro has had four Thunderbolt ports; the base model always had just two. This computer clearly replaces that one, and Apple will launch another MacBook Pro in the future to replace the rest.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by mseidl »

brundolf wrote: post #142
geoffeg wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing that since the RAM is now on the SOC instead of on separate chips creating models with more RAM becomes more difficult not only from a space constraint on the die but a cost to manufacture more variants?

This is a good point and begs an interesting question: will they continue using the same ARM chip across the whole line when the 16" MBP and the other iMacs make the switch, and if so, will all Macs of the same generation always have the same amount of RAM? Or will they branch the chips (M2 and M2S, or something)? Is RAM becoming less relevant when you have smart integration of software and hardware components, to a…

I'm waiting for their mac pro with apple silicon to be capped at 16gb of ram! ;)

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by wmf »

AnonHP wrote: post #140

Apple mentioned in the event that these Macs will have hardware verified secure boot. Since I’m not very knowledgeable in this area, can someone explain (or even try to guess) what this would/could mean for running Linux on these? I use Macs way beyond Apple’s support timeframe with OS X/macOS, and Linux is the one that runs on some of the older Macs and provides adequate security and security related software update…

Even if you could turn off secure boot, Linux doesn't have drivers for Apple Silicon. Maybe in 2030 someone will port Linux to a jailbroken M1 Mac.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by sebmellen »

callamdelaney wrote: post #150

I'll be sticking with my 2015 Macbook Pro Retina 13". Great machine, not too thin, heavy enough, no stupid touch screen, usb ports, great keyboard. Everything apple has done since hasn't compared.

Same here, I love this machine. Everything after 2015 went downhill in my view.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by jimbokun »

brundolf wrote: post #142
geoffeg wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing that since the RAM is now on the SOC instead of on separate chips creating models with more RAM becomes more difficult not only from a space constraint on the die but a cost to manufacture more variants?

This is a good point and begs an interesting question: will they continue using the same ARM chip across the whole line when the 16" MBP and the other iMacs make the switch, and if so, will all Macs of the same generation always have the same amount of RAM? Or will they branch the chips (M2 and M2S, or something)? Is RAM becoming less relevant when you have smart integration of software and hardware components, to a…

That is probably exactly why they are holding off on the 16" and iMacs, so they can engineer an Apple Silicon package with more RAM expansion options.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by bsimpson »

KMnO4 wrote: post #47

Surprisingly, the dealbreaker for me on this current generation is 2x TB3 ports on one side. I really like being able to charge from either side.

What a bizarre limitation. You'd think once they had them on both sides, they'd keep them that way for exactly the kind of flexibility you mention.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by Asmod4n »

AnonHP wrote: post #140

Apple mentioned in the event that these Macs will have hardware verified secure boot. Since I’m not very knowledgeable in this area, can someone explain (or even try to guess) what this would/could mean for running Linux on these? I use Macs way beyond Apple’s support timeframe with OS X/macOS, and Linux is the one that runs on some of the older Macs and provides adequate security and security related software update…

No Bootcamp for Apple Silicon Macs, you can't install any other Operating System on it. But you can run arm linux in a virtual machine.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by poulsbohemian »

When I was an active software developer, I always had the biggest and beefiest machine possible, plus a MBP for when I was on the move.

Now, off in another career field, I'm really wondering why I would choose a MPB over an iPad Air or Pro. By the time you add a keyboard to the iPad, it kinda feels like the only real difference is whether you want to run Xcode. Other than that, is there really anything you can do on a MBP that you can't do on an iPad?

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