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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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post #80

Apple has been getting trashed lately by developers for how hot and loud their macbooks get. You can tell how much focus they put on cooling in this presentation. The macbook air literally doesn't even have a fan!

It's not clear if they use the exact same M1 chip in Airs, but I'm pretty sure they run under a very low TDP. iPad A14 runs on 6W TDP.

In the chip part of the presentation they mentioned the Air TDP as being 10W.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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post #72

Eehm. What is the actual difference between the MBA M1 and the MBP 13 M1? (except the latter is thicker?) Checked the compareison and didn‘t find anything substantial...

The MBP gets all 8 GPU cores, the MBA gets 7 (but you can upgrade the MBA to get all 8 for effectively $50 with a $200 upgrade to the storage as well). Touchbar and bigger battery. I think those are the only differences

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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post #8

Super interesting how they kept the touchbar on the Macbook Pro keyboard but not on the Air. As a software developer, I'm going to be more likely to buy an Air just due to the keyboard.

Has anyone ever seen anyone use the Touch Bar? Like really use it?

There are quite a few people who look at the keyboard as they type and for them it's great. Seems like it would be more useful in a consumer laptop.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing that since the RAM is now on the SOC instead of on separate chips creating models with more RAM becomes more difficult not only from a space constraint on the die but a cost to manufacture more variants?

It's not on the same die just the same package which albeit is still space constrained.

Thanks, I sometimes get those terms confused.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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post #97

- 16GB RAM - 1TB SSD - 2.8 GHz Intel Core i7 - 2 Thunderbolt - 2 USB B - Headphone jack - MagSafe power - HDMI - SD Card Reader - Physical function keys row MacBook design peaked in 2015.

I have the 2015 model, and I completely agree. It's a real shame though, because I would absolutely love a faster processor.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

fwiw, you can configure a 13" Macbook Pro with an Intel chip up to 32GB. But I agree, I wish they launched the new M1 based 13" Pros with up to 32GB RAM

It definitely would have been a way to differentiate the Pro and the Air rather than giving them identical SOCs.

The low end Air only has 7 GPU cores compared with 8 on the one with more storage. So they must be disabling a bad core and selling it the cheap model. Other than that all these machines use the exact same CPUs. Which means that an iMac or 16" MBP are probably going to use a M1X or something with more cores.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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post #8

Super interesting how they kept the touchbar on the Macbook Pro keyboard but not on the Air. As a software developer, I'm going to be more likely to buy an Air just due to the keyboard.

Has anyone ever seen anyone use the Touch Bar? Like really use it?

I dislike it immensely, mainly because it changes all the time and this makes ot hard to use worhout looking at it every single time. The best way is to use an external keyboard.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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post #59

Super interesting how they kept the touchbar on the Macbook Pro keyboard but not on the Air. As a software developer, I'm going to be more likely to buy an Air just due to the keyboard.

They kept the touch bar but it seems that they added (back) a physical Esc key, isn't that the most criticized missing key? Which other key do you miss now that Esc is back?

All of them? I use the function keys regularly and it's much harder to hit the correct one without looking at the keyboard with the touch bar.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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post #108
post #85

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I imagine they all are made with 16Gb on and the ones that are broken get sold as 8Gb. What worries me is my desktop has 64Gb of RAM which cost 1/3 of Apple’s usual upgrade mugging. I think I’ll walk away from this. Edit: just seen £200 to upgrade from a 8Gb unit to 16Gb. 8GB of RAM for £200 is “get fucked” territory. I paid £240 for the 64Gb in my desktop.

The iPad Pro has a mere 4GB of RAM and is faster at almost every task AND multitasking than any of my other beefy machines. I wouldn’t discount this yet.

I have an iPad Pro. It’s not. And it’s not very flexible.
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