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Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Also no more 10G ethernet.

And no way to buy a previous Mini with 10Gbe/64GB now either?... (from Apple)

At least in the US Store, the Intel Mac Mini is still for sale:

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini/3.0ghz-intel-cor...

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I'm interested to see the benchmarks vs. comparable AMD systems. Some of the claims, like 2x performance increase on the MBP are impressive, but intel laptops have been absolutely trounced by AMD 4000-series laptops of late. Also will be interested to see the benchmarks of the integrated GPU vs. discreet GPU performance.

Psst…you want to use "discrete".

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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The 13" Macbook Pro lineup looks pretty weird on their store now, at least in the UK.

The M1 with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD is at £1299, with a 512GB SSD option at £1499. To bump the RAM to 16GB is another £200(!), so £1699 for 16/512.

The Intel options are £1799 for 16/512 or £1999 for 16/1024. So on the Intel side they seem to have cut out 8/256 options, and then they've re-introduced them for the M1 only - which makes the M1 look like it has a much lower starting price. It is cool if 16/512 M1 is £100 cheaper with more power and better battery life though. Intel can of course still increase the memory to 32GB (for £400 lol).

The other downside is only 2 ports on the M1 ones, Intel have 4.

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Completely unconfirmed speculation incoming: There's a solid chance that the logic board is exactly the same on all of the Macs announced today and the only difference is the cooling solution. If you play around with the Apple Store configurator, the specs are all suspiciously similar between every new Mac. https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/13-inch https://w…

I noticed the slides kept saying "Up to" 8 GPU cores. That left me wondering if there are different variants of the M1 with different core counts. (Note: It always said 8 CPU cores)

According to the tech specs on the Apple site, the Air is available with 7 or 8 GPU cores. All other new Macs have 8.

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I guess the cooling let’s them tweak the CPU clocks accordingly? Wonder if we can hack the Mac mini with water blocks and squeeze higher clocks. The memory limitation makes it a dud though.

8GB and 16GB configurations seem more than enough..

Don’t touch Xcode then, it welcomes you to paging hell.

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They’re not advertising any 16Gb models on their web site. It’s all 8Gb. Which you’re not going to be able to upgrade. I’m out

You can choose 16Gb for +$200.

Ah yes just seen that.

8Gb of RAM for £200 they can piss off. I paid £240 for 64Gb of decent stuff in my desktop.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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I honestly expected more. While compute performance and power efficiency seems to be really good, the M1 chip is apparently limited to 16GB RAM, 2TB storage and 2 Thunderbolt/USB4 controllers. Comparing the new 13" MacBook Pro with the previous one that's a regression in every aspect as the Intel-based ones allow up to 32GB RAM and 4TB storage and offer 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports.

While compute performance and power efficiency seems to be really good, the M1 chip is apparently limited to 16GB RAM, 2TB storage and 2 Thunderbolt/USB4 controllers. In other words, M1 is for the majority of consumers. - power efficiency - 16GB RAM - 2TB storage - 2 Thunderbolt/USB4 That looks like a really good feature set for ordinary consumers. My guess is that there's going to be 2 "Pro" variants for a high powe…

Lets be honest - Apple has not really expanded its share of PC/Laptop market in a long time. Ordinary consumers are not going to care about this, especially with the Apple premium tacked on. I think combined it runs 10% +/- year to year variation.

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But they needed to, MacBooks are simply no option if you want to train models. I dont expect crazy performance but would be great if MacBooks would be an option again for prototyping / model development at least

Who mentioned training? Most of these chips are only any good for inference. A wonderful symphony with the Apple computing mantra, of course.

Totally agree.

Besides, can the neural engine be used to speed up other tasks?

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