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Introducing the next generation of Mac
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#82Only up to 16gb of memory on the M1 MacBook Pro?!?! The intel one is configurable to 32gb. Choosing between memory and CPU. So torn, so disappointed. P.S. I’m a developer, like many here. (Edit: specify the M1, not the existing Intel.)
> Only up to 16gb of memory on the MacBook Pro?!?! It supports up to 64GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory. (Source: Went through the "Buy" process to see the options.)
Try again. I just went through the "buy" process for the M1 model, and 16Gb was the max configurable memory.
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#83Url changed from https://www.apple.com/mac/ to the press release with more info. If there's a more accurate and neutral third-party article, let me know and we can change it again.
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#84The 16GB RAM limit is unfortunate. Five years later and I still can't buy a new 13" laptop from Apple with more RAM than my 2015 MBP. Edit: Apparently you can configure a (Early 2020) Intel-based 13" MBP with 32GB of RAM - I was not aware of that. Hope they bring that option to the ARM versions ASAP, especially if the performance gains are as good as Apple claims.
Not all RAM is created equally. Better memory management means less RAM can be better than more RAM. Pair that with superfast flash storage for SWAP and you might not even be able to tell the difference between 16 and 32. Besides, this release cycle is 100% optimized for an impressive speed boost, tempered by a need for a more impressive battery life. The proof will be in the pudding.Time will tell.
Yes that's true, for the "average consumer" that really only needs that RAM to power the 100+ browser tabs they have open. But if you're doing lots of virtualization or containerized work, super fast SWAP isn't going to cut it.
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#85The 16GB RAM limit is unfortunate. Five years later and I still can't buy a new 13" laptop from Apple with more RAM than my 2015 MBP. Edit: Apparently you can configure a (Early 2020) Intel-based 13" MBP with 32GB of RAM - I was not aware of that. Hope they bring that option to the ARM versions ASAP, especially if the performance gains are as good as Apple claims.
I'm guessing that since the RAM is now on the SOC instead of on separate chips creating models with more RAM becomes more difficult not only from a space constraint on the die but a cost to manufacture more variants?
I imagine they all are made with 16Gb on and the ones that are broken get sold as 8Gb.
What worries me is my desktop has 64Gb of RAM which cost 1/3 of Apple’s usual upgrade mugging.
I think I’ll walk away from this.
Edit: just seen £200 to upgrade from a 8Gb unit to 16Gb.
8GB of RAM for £200 is “get fucked” territory. I paid £240 for the 64Gb in my desktop.
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#86Super interesting how they kept the touchbar on the Macbook Pro keyboard but not on the Air. As a software developer, I'm going to be more likely to buy an Air just due to the keyboard.
They kept the touch bar but it seems that they added (back) a physical Esc key, isn't that the most criticized missing key? Which other key do you miss now that Esc is back?
That’s great!
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#87Did I miss something, or are they, once again, not upgrading the camera? The low light performance of the current version is real bad. Since we're all using these cameras way more, I really thought there would a hardware bump. You can only squeeze so much detail out of an under-exposed, noisy image with software.
I'm curious, are higher-quality cameras even available that fit into the thin lid? (At a reasonable price?)
I was always under the impression that the built-in camera is so much worse than your phone's front-facing camera simply because the phone is thick and has room, while the MacBook lid is much thinner.
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#88I backed a game a while ago on Kickstarter with native support for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Several weeks ago they sent us a message saying they were ditching the MacOS version due the architecture change. I wonder how it'll affect the whole ecosystem. I think it'll end being like an iOS on steroids.
I think their hope is that the Mac's anemic game ecosystem will be filled in by iOS games which run natively. I hope they're right, and I say that as someone who has a gaming PC and still hasn't found many quality core games on iOS.
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#89The 16GB RAM limit is unfortunate. Five years later and I still can't buy a new 13" laptop from Apple with more RAM than my 2015 MBP. Edit: Apparently you can configure a (Early 2020) Intel-based 13" MBP with 32GB of RAM - I was not aware of that. Hope they bring that option to the ARM versions ASAP, especially if the performance gains are as good as Apple claims.
fwiw, you can configure a 13" Macbook Pro with an Intel chip up to 32GB. But I agree, I wish they launched the new M1 based 13" Pros with up to 32GB RAM
It definitely would have been a way to differentiate the Pro and the Air rather than giving them identical SOCs.
Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac
#90The 16GB RAM limit is unfortunate. Five years later and I still can't buy a new 13" laptop from Apple with more RAM than my 2015 MBP. Edit: Apparently you can configure a (Early 2020) Intel-based 13" MBP with 32GB of RAM - I was not aware of that. Hope they bring that option to the ARM versions ASAP, especially if the performance gains are as good as Apple claims.
I'm guessing that since the RAM is now on the SOC instead of on separate chips creating models with more RAM becomes more difficult not only from a space constraint on the die but a cost to manufacture more variants?
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