Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by aldanor » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:03 PM UTC

Ducki wrote: post #148

greenpresident wrote: post #89

Max 16GB of RAM on these new machines is really not that great to be honest. The mini supported up to 64GB before.

Also no more 10G ethernet.

And no way to buy a previous Mini with 10Gbe/64GB now either?... (from Apple)

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by ksec » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:03 PM UTC

kevindong wrote: post #186

Completely unconfirmed speculation incoming: There's a solid chance that the logic board is exactly the same on all of the Macs announced today and the only difference is the cooling solution. If you play around with the Apple Store configurator, the specs are all suspiciously similar between every new Mac. https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/13-inch https://w…

Actually that was what I notice in the video as well. Mac mini has huge amount of empty space. And the only difference was the cooling unit fitted on top.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by amatecha » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:03 PM UTC

greenpresident wrote: post #89

Max 16GB of RAM on these new machines is really not that great to be honest. The mini supported up to 64GB before.

Yeah this is surprising considering how much they talk about how great the processor is for ML, too...

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Post by bredren » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:03 PM UTC

greenpresident wrote: post #89

Max 16GB of RAM on these new machines is really not that great to be honest. The mini supported up to 64GB before.

For reference, I have a maxed 2018 mini I've upgraded twice -> 32GB then to 64GB.

Amazon price for 2x32gb modules is lower than it ever has been as of today ($218.58) [1] and I have had no problem making full use of that memory in MacOS. [2]

[1] https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07ZLCC6J8

[2] https://i.imgur.com/BDWrGw3.png

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by maxioatic » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:04 PM UTC

miohtama wrote: post #95

azhenley wrote: post #87

If you didn't see the event, they've put the new chip into the new MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini that will start shipping soon.

Next week, to be exact.

November 17, to be exact exact.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by jaykru » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:04 PM UTC

est31 wrote: post #174

itake wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is their 13" model. Their 15" model is targeted for professionals.

Both have a 16 GB limitation.

That's not true. The 16-inch model remains Intel and supports up to 64GB of memory.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by ziftface » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:04 PM UTC

paxys wrote: post #185

think814 wrote: post #63

Did I understand correctly that MacBook Pro and Air will share the same M1 CPU? Previous models had a massive delta in CPU performance based on using low power (Air, no fan) or medium power (Pro, with dual fans) Intel chips

Same CPU line, but doesn't mean they will have the same specs. Pro will definitely have its cores run faster/hotter.

Is there any indication at this point that they'll make that clear? It seems kind of strange to buy a computer without really knowing what you're buying.

I guess apple didn't officially say what intel processors they have in their computers, but at least you could look it up and know what you're getting.

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Post by Jtsummers » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:04 PM UTC

Out of curiosity, how many people are actually constrained by 16GB of RAM? What applications are you using it for that 16GB vs 32GB is actually a deal breaker for you?

Thinking about your average end-users, like most of my family, 8 to 16GB is about all they need for their systems (and if software were better written they'd probably need less). So is this specific work like machine learning? Video and image processing?

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Post by mlindner » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:04 PM UTC

jeffbee wrote: post #167

bnt wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it costs an extra €224 to go from 8 to 16gb. This is ridiculously expensive.

It's not quite as insulting as their $800 2TB SSD.

I mean if it's SLC chip, that can explain the price.

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Post by amatecha » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:04 PM UTC

itake wrote: post #168

capableweb wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really, 16GB max? I find it very strange how Apple went from targeting professionals, seeing the strategy work from the ground up for many years, but now somehow want to pivot to hobbyists/others instead of professionals. Could someone try to help me figure out the reasoning behind Apple changing the target customer?

This is their 13" model. Their 15" model is targeted for professionals.

I mean, "Pro" is in the name, I expect Pro-level specs, haha :P