Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by shroom » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:46 PM UTC

_ph_ wrote: post #41

romanovcode wrote: post #26

I don't get it. If we have same CPU on MacbookAir and MacbookPro - why would I get more expensive "Pro"? Can someone explain how is Pro faster than Air with same CPU? Also, the "Windows Guy" bit is a bit lame IMO. I have two MacBooks and one custom built PC. The PC is faster than both MacBooks combined.

As one has a fan and the other not, they are probably clocked differently and the cooled one might sustain full power infinitely. The pro also has a larger battery, better speakers and microphones and the touch bar.

Does it also come without touch bar?

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by Shivetya » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:47 PM UTC

I did not see it mentioned but I hope an app comes with Big Sur which lets us see which apps will work with Rosetta2 through Finder or some sort of report

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by abrowne » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:47 PM UTC

bklyn11201 wrote: post #18

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #11

Wait, they pulled out the FAN?

For sure this was expected, but the fan was actually pulled out in the 12" MacBook 2015 edition (dual-core Intel Core M processor). https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/176391/which-macbook-doesnt-have-any-fans/176393

And the latest Intel MBA doesn't have a heat pipe connecting the fan to the CPU.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by ninkendo » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:47 PM UTC

protomyth wrote: post #32

16GB max it looks like.

huge own-goal on Apple's part. It would be literally impossible for me to use this machine to do my job. I guess I'll have to wait until M2.

Edit: If it wasn't clear, this was not a joke. I develop a relatively heavyweight service on the JVM, and between my IDE, the code I run, and all the gradle build daemon stuff, I regularly use up more than 32GB. Often over 50GB. (Although some swap is tolerable, having the majority of my resident set being swapped at any given time means things get very slow.)

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by brundolf » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:47 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #31

romanovcode wrote: post #26

I don't get it. If we have same CPU on MacbookAir and MacbookPro - why would I get more expensive "Pro"? Can someone explain how is Pro faster than Air with same CPU? Also, the "Windows Guy" bit is a bit lame IMO. I have two MacBooks and one custom built PC. The PC is faster than both MacBooks combined.

Because of all the other components which are different? A laptop isn't just a CPU.

The article mentions that the new M1 contains the CPU, GPU, memory, I/O, etc. in a single chip.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by twoodfin » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:47 PM UTC

jonplackett wrote: post #42

The pricing is pretty impressive. Shame no 16 inch pro though. Surely they need to update that quick because who is going to want a 16 inch intel Mac now?

Rumors were it was just behind the initial rollout (though those rumors missed the new Mac mini, AFAIK).

Signs point to another event in January, I'd expect it there with a heftier SoC.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by laurentdc » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:48 PM UTC

The onboard graphics performance seems to be impressive (1050Ti - 1060 range). I wonder if Valve and Epic will start compiling games for ARM. This MacBook could be my first gaming laptop, who would have thought

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by asimpletune » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:48 PM UTC

AnonHP wrote: post #49

All the Macs looked quite impressive! It was well worth waiting for these (at least for me). But I was disappointed that the maximum RAM is 16GB. I would’ve preferred a 32GB option for better future proofing (especially with web applications needing more and more memory). Edit: Considering the fact that the RAM won’t be upgradeable (it’s part of the SoC), this limitation is a big bummer. What may be worse is that all…

Was that for just mb air or all of them? I missed that part.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by JKCalhoun » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:48 PM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #31

romanovcode wrote: post #26

I don't get it. If we have same CPU on MacbookAir and MacbookPro - why would I get more expensive "Pro"? Can someone explain how is Pro faster than Air with same CPU? Also, the "Windows Guy" bit is a bit lame IMO. I have two MacBooks and one custom built PC. The PC is faster than both MacBooks combined.

Because of all the other components which are different? A laptop isn't just a CPU.

Yep. Like more USB ports....

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Post by jonplackett » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:48 PM UTC

romanovcode wrote: post #26

I don't get it. If we have same CPU on MacbookAir and MacbookPro - why would I get more expensive "Pro"? Can someone explain how is Pro faster than Air with same CPU? Also, the "Windows Guy" bit is a bit lame IMO. I have two MacBooks and one custom built PC. The PC is faster than both MacBooks combined.

The price difference is pretty tiny anyway. Fan means it can keep that performance up for more than a minute or two.