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Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Post by pjc50 »

thu2111 wrote: post #87
demosthenes14 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have sources for people being banned for those reasons? I have not heard of these cases

It's not exactly the same but this article talks about a gay guy being banned for (supposedly) pointing out that there are very non-binary people in the world, and objecting to the idea that language should be changed to accomodate them: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2019/10/19/t... The article quotes some of his tweets on the topic.

Are we absolutely sure that's what he was banned for? Twitter makes it very unclear, there isn't a "[user was banned for posting this tweet]" report.

Given their failure to ban glinner for far worse stuff I suspect there's something else going on.

Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Post by collyw »

Robin_Message wrote: post #61
_red wrote: post #9

Can you speak about Benfords law or post data plots on Parler? Unfortunately you can no longer do that on HN even...

Benford's law only applies to numbers drawn from a distribution with a wide spread over multiple orders of magnitude. So, financial transactions in a big company would show this. Votes in US districts, not so much. So there, we've spoken about it. (I think the technical term for the distribution is scale-free but I could be wrong. The law follows reasonably intuitively from thinking about the fractional part of logar…

Wasn't it used in an Iranian election as evidence of shenanigans?

>So there, we've spoken about it.

You seem to have given your opinion without wanting anyone else to give theirs. Why are you so against discussing it?

Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Post by thinkingemote »

fsflover wrote: post #56

I wish they went to Mastodon instead.

I tried mastodon, saw that it was a decent alternative to Twitter and then realised that I don't want to ever use Twitter or an alternative any more.

Its like Twitter has ruined social media entirely

Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Post by mcphage »

collyw wrote: post #90
mcphage wrote: post #25

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What does “silenced” mean to you?

Twitter is covering up many of his tweets, saying that they are debatable, you can't just scroll down his feed and see what has been said, you need to click on each one by one, click back again to see what he has said, hindering the user experience massively. Meanwhile the flat earth society doesn't have any of it's tweets disputed.

> you can't just scroll down his feed and see what has been said, you need to click on each one by one, click back again to see what he has said, hindering the user experience massively

So silenced means "you need to click a few more times to see what he said". What if they added another click—would you call that "super silenced", or something else?

> Meanwhile the flat earth society doesn't have any of it's tweets disputed.

Well, at least you have an idea of his peer group in bullshittery.

Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Post by Robin_Message »

collyw wrote: post #92
Robin_Message wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Benford's law only applies to numbers drawn from a distribution with a wide spread over multiple orders of magnitude. So, financial transactions in a big company would show this. Votes in US districts, not so much. So there, we've spoken about it. (I think the technical term for the distribution is scale-free but I could be wrong. The law follows reasonably intuitively from thinking about the fractional part of logar…

Wasn't it used in an Iranian election as evidence of shenanigans? >So there, we've spoken about it. You seem to have given your opinion without wanting anyone else to give theirs. Why are you so against discussing it?

Yes, from the paper "A first-digit anomaly in the 2009 Iranian presidential election" (https://arxiv.org/pdf/0906.2789.pdf):

"The total numbers of votes per voting area in the MOI’s data vary from about 10^4 to 10^6, i.e. by two orders of magnitude (powers of 10). This suggests that Benford’s Law may be applicable"

The issue, as I understand it, is that the US districts that the "law" is being applied to are too small, uniform, and uniformly sized, and therefore the "law" doesn't apply.

Additionally, many of the graphs being shared have obvious biases (change of scale between one candidate and the other) which suggests bad faith of those making the graphs (see the skeptics.stackexchange link a sibling shared).

> Why are you so against discussing it?

I'm not especially against discussing it. I am against presenting it as a fait accompli that the election was rigged, when thirty seconds of Googling and critical thought show it to be a red herring.

Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Post by Robin_Message »

_red wrote: post #50
jonquark wrote: post #17

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That isn't what the comment you are replying to said. It said that before you claim that thing X and thing Y are related, take a look at this page that goes through the claims and debunks them. If the answers on that page are mistaken and it is relevant to a topic on HN then it seems logical (to me) that you could discuss it here (but unfounded political allegations should be off-topic in most HN chats in my opinion)…

Unfortunately links to other pages / data-scientist who disagree with above are "flagged".

I have showdead on and I don't see any "flagged" links. Are you claiming a link you tried to shared is being silently suppressed beyond HN's normal moderation tools?

Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Post by steinuil »

zaphar wrote: post #88
rusk wrote: post #83

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Yes it was awful wasn't it. It pretty much turned me off twitter altogether. These days there is an icon on the top right of the app, or web page that looks like a constellation of stars. If you click that you get the option to go back to good twitter.

The stars option will switch back automatically though after some period of time, which is why I switched to https://tweetdeck.twitter.com for my interface.

If you switch back enough times it will stop trying. Same with other things like suggested tweets in your notifications or likes from others, if you see those just click on the top right arrow on the option that says I'm not interested and after a few days it will stop showing them.

Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Post by ceejayoz »

throwaway3699 wrote: post #49
ceejayoz wrote: post #15

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Their retweet option is rather hilariously called the echo button. I’m not sure if it’s self-aware or not.

Isn't that a good thing? People need to become aware about how retweets do turn Twitter into an echochamber.

It's a good thing if the irony is recognized.

I'm not sure it will be, though.

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