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How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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post #33

I thought this was illegal and why the third party cartridge market is so big. Anyway, I wouldn't recommend inkjet printers for normal home users: for plain text, I'd use a B&W laserjet printer and if I had to print in color (like broschures or food recipes with photos), I'd use a color laserjet. For quality photos, I'd send them in to a professional service: it's still pretty cheap compared to inkjet printing... I'v…

This is a LaserJet printer he's talking about FWIW.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

#62
post #9

A VP at HP once told me they make 3/4 of their profits from selling inks (I am sure he exaggerated but still). You can buy original laserjet cartridges for $150 or third party cartridges for $40-60 (or $25 if you are happy with noname Chinese cartridges). So there is big money involved.

That is funny we heard the same thing from a high up at HP

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

#63
post #33

I thought this was illegal and why the third party cartridge market is so big. Anyway, I wouldn't recommend inkjet printers for normal home users: for plain text, I'd use a B&W laserjet printer and if I had to print in color (like broschures or food recipes with photos), I'd use a color laserjet. For quality photos, I'd send them in to a professional service: it's still pretty cheap compared to inkjet printing... I'v…

I use inkjet printers and I am very satisfied. I am using an Epson printer with what they call EcoTank. Just tanks with different color inks that you can refill yourself.

Have to say this was a life saver during lockdown. 100s of full colour pages later and still not a dent in the ink levels. Really amazing

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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post #10

Most of printer drivers are BS. I also bought a printer after lockdown, and had to spent hours to do research on the printer model that's interested me: Mac & linux compatible. The result is Brother is the most reliable and less BS than the rest printers. In the end, I bought a wireless Brother printer, and you can throw whatever cartridge in to it.

I’ve had a little Brother laser printer for 10 years. Works with macOS (and every prior version of OS X), Linux, and is now operating as a remote CUPS printer connected to an RPi. I’ve only has to replace the toner once. Thing is a tank and I loathe thinking about having to replace it someday.

My brother printer is actually 20 years old and still works. Have had to replace the roller once and the ink a few times, and it's not wireless but for how rarely I print I've definitely got my money's worth.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

#65
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then void the warranty if the device is used with unsupported cartridges.

I'm not sure that approach would be sustainable. Printer manufacturers are in the business of loss leading as far as I can see. They probably don't make any significant profit on the printer itself, judging by what I've paid for printers in the last few years. The price of the printer is subsidised by the projected profits from the ink/toner. And they are not insignificant, I agree. But in the current market, selling…

A Color Laserjet can be bought for roughly $450. A high-capacity replacement for all 4 toner cartridges will cost just over $700. That makes my Laserjet disposable - once the toners are nearly empty, I will sell it on eBay and replace mine with a new one.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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post #33

I thought this was illegal and why the third party cartridge market is so big. Anyway, I wouldn't recommend inkjet printers for normal home users: for plain text, I'd use a B&W laserjet printer and if I had to print in color (like broschures or food recipes with photos), I'd use a color laserjet. For quality photos, I'd send them in to a professional service: it's still pretty cheap compared to inkjet printing... I'v…

This is a LaserJet printer he's talking about FWIW.

Yeah, the headline should be "...ban[s] 3rd-party toner cartridges".

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

#69
post #6

HP printers do in-band firmware updates via print jobs?

Actually, yeah. It's actually a really great solution, because it means you don't have to write a complicated firmware update protocol for every platform; you just "print" the firmware upgrade, and it gets the job done for you.

Of course, it opens up the printer to some pretty serious security problems, but let's just ignore that...

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

#70
Disgusting HP, I've actually liked them for their nice Linux support..

Does not matter though, I got a Ricoh MP C2500 for "picking" it up, the 4 toners ( CMYK ) cost around $320, then here's toner for the rest of my life, and I get to print and scan a4 and a3 in duplex. Really nice machine, has network support and trays for multiple paper sizes.. amazing what people throw out these days. I'd never go back, this machine is even well enough built that spare parts can be bought for it and it's well documented how to service it.

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