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Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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Twitter alternatives will all fail because they try to be an application for millions. They see Twitter and see the volume of users so build something for the numbers and hope that they are less bad. But Twitter and every other thing that has grown big has 1) started small 2) was not initially created to be big and 3) was attractive to use.

Twitter succeeded because (and I'm not au fait with the details of how exactly) they managed to onboard a lot of high profile users from a variety of different walks of life. Everybody else came to hear what they had to say. This must have been a huge amount of work, and not something that's talked about much and I can only presume you'd have to do something similar to mount any kind of credible opposition. That's a…

In English Twitter, the "anchor celebrity" seemed to have been Stephen Fry.

I'd love to see a good anthropological survey of how Twitter became popular enough that by the time of the Arab Spring it was the default "public communications" app.

Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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It reminds me of how reddit went through a period of turmoil with claims of censorship and mods acting too aggressively and all the freedom of speech zealots decided to jump ship over to voat.co. I like to check in from time to time to see how that site is doing, and well...it's not pretty. I know parler is pulling in some pretty big names to give it some legitimacy, but it's probably going to succumb to the same pro…

> parler is pulling in some pretty big names to give it some legitimacy

This works both ways; if someone does that it's likely to harm their "mainstream" legitimacy eventually.

Anyone remember menshn?

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Spent 2 minutes on here. Looks like it's just attracting conspiracy nuts. Deleted my account.

Obvious and dead horse beaten issue. I’m working on solving this and will report here when I’ve got a prototype. Surprising insights arise from pondering the philosophy of show and tell-specifically how listening is involved in order to “earn” your turn to speak.

> Obvious and dead horse beaten issue. I’m working on solving this and will report here when I’ve got a prototype. Surprising insights arise from pondering the philosophy of show and tell-specifically how listening is involved in order to “earn” your turn to speak.

Do you ever look at what you've written and ask yourself: "Would somebody else understand this"? Could you say it again, but using enough words this time?

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I received a text message from them yesterday with an activation code to create an account, despite not signing up for them. I reported it as spam.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a deliberate bot effort to register fluff accounts yesterday, to make this PR piece possible.

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Spent 2 minutes on here. Looks like it's just attracting conspiracy nuts. Deleted my account.

Exactly. I deleted my accounts on both since you don't get anything out from echo chambers anyway.

I returned back to look at Twitter again after blocking it for months and it is just as bad as Parler, but with more lunatics and rabid bots everywhere.

There are still very crazy users on Twitter especially those who fancy taking down 'The oppressive capitalist system™' if that suits you more.

All I can say to those who enjoy this is, let's see if you're willing to pay for it all soon. [0]

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/8/21317266/twitter-subscript...

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Ominous that the social networks are splitting along these lines

I don't think it's ominous. Different platforms serve different interests and demographics - some people want the barely moderated edgelord chaos of 4chan, most people don't.

Re: Parler 'free speech' app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat

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I think that all these platforms: Parler, Gab, etc, will end up with one of two fates. They'll either fail to make it big and remain a niche thing for those trolls who enjoy the edginess, like 4chan and its newer alternatives, or... They'll grow big and end up having to deal with "trust and safety" issues when the majority of users on the mainstream end of the spectrum demand protection from those users who would oth…

> fail to make it big and remain a niche thing for those trolls who enjoy the edginess, It would fail on those terms as well due to irrelevance: When your political agenda consists of annoying and offending "the other", they need to be present to take offence. If they're not listening, where's the fun? The "echo chamber" aspect takes all the fun out of the performative cruelty.

do note that this isnt that hard a barrier. The earliest reports of bad behavior were from the BBS days, with nazi forums targeting Jewish or holocaust focused boards/sites.
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