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How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by k_ »

gonzo41 wrote: post #4

How is this not something akin to an anti-trust issue? Fun story. I had a printer for a while, and then I just didn't after university. I don't print anything anymore. To no loss at all. It's either on my phone or I write things with a pen.

> I don't print anything anymore.

I wish =/ Most of the documents I have to print are documents to be printed, signed, and scanned again (or sent by mail - not email).

Some (including my employer) still don't accept anything else than signature on real paper somehow.. Luckily I have a "re-purpose device" at home (a young child with a huge appetite for drawings), but I'd still like to avoid this waste.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by alpanka »

a012 wrote: post #10

Most of printer drivers are BS. I also bought a printer after lockdown, and had to spent hours to do research on the printer model that's interested me: Mac & linux compatible. The result is Brother is the most reliable and less BS than the rest printers. In the end, I bought a wireless Brother printer, and you can throw whatever cartridge in to it.

HP laserjets have pretty good Linux support, it's usually plugnplay on Ubuntu.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by drtillberg »

a012 wrote: post #10

Most of printer drivers are BS. I also bought a printer after lockdown, and had to spent hours to do research on the printer model that's interested me: Mac & linux compatible. The result is Brother is the most reliable and less BS than the rest printers. In the end, I bought a wireless Brother printer, and you can throw whatever cartridge in to it.

Linux support for HP requires some HP daemon running at all times and in my experience fails in edge cases where a standard Linux integration would not. I also don't like their logo on my Linux task bar, no one else requires that to make a printer 'go'.

Recently got a Xerox, it's better.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by pizza234 »

alpanka wrote: post #12
a012 wrote: post #10

Most of printer drivers are BS. I also bought a printer after lockdown, and had to spent hours to do research on the printer model that's interested me: Mac & linux compatible. The result is Brother is the most reliable and less BS than the rest printers. In the end, I bought a wireless Brother printer, and you can throw whatever cartridge in to it.

HP laserjets have pretty good Linux support, it's usually plugnplay on Ubuntu.

Confirmed, although it should be noted that some may require a blob ("Binary plugin") in order to print and/or scanning (mosts frequently scanning). See table here: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/bina....

  > Most Linux distributions include HPLIP with their software, but most do not include the plug-in
This is not exactly pleasing for open source enthusiasts (me included).

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by zemvpferreira »

pingec wrote: post #13

Are there any online resources on what is the most reliable and cheap printer to use long term? I'm thinking a BW or Color laser printer where the parts last a long time and accept cheap third party toner cartridges?

Common wisdom has been any Brother printer (for the past 20 years maybe). I have one and love it compared to my previous HPs.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by arusahni »

k_ wrote: post #11
gonzo41 wrote: post #4

How is this not something akin to an anti-trust issue? Fun story. I had a printer for a while, and then I just didn't after university. I don't print anything anymore. To no loss at all. It's either on my phone or I write things with a pen.

> I don't print anything anymore. I wish =/ Most of the documents I have to print are documents to be printed, signed, and scanned again (or sent by mail - not email). Some (including my employer) still don't accept anything else than signature on real paper somehow.. Luckily I have a "re-purpose device" at home (a young child with a huge appetite for drawings), but I'd still like to avoid this waste.

Some PDF viewers (e.g., Preview, Okular) let you place images of your signature on a document and then export the "signed" version. I haven't had issues with getting these documents accepted.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by shafyy »

pingec wrote: post #13

Are there any online resources on what is the most reliable and cheap printer to use long term? I'm thinking a BW or Color laser printer where the parts last a long time and accept cheap third party toner cartridges?

I just ordered an HP laser printer since Wirecutter recommended it. Not used it yet. On HN I see people recommending Brother all the time though, so now I hope my HP is still ok :-)

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by ryanianian »

a012 wrote: post #10

Most of printer drivers are BS. I also bought a printer after lockdown, and had to spent hours to do research on the printer model that's interested me: Mac & linux compatible. The result is Brother is the most reliable and less BS than the rest printers. In the end, I bought a wireless Brother printer, and you can throw whatever cartridge in to it.

I’ve had a little Brother laser printer for 10 years. Works with macOS (and every prior version of OS X), Linux, and is now operating as a remote CUPS printer connected to an RPi. I’ve only has to replace the toner once. Thing is a tank and I loathe thinking about having to replace it someday.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by himinlomax »

k_ wrote: post #11
gonzo41 wrote: post #4

How is this not something akin to an anti-trust issue? Fun story. I had a printer for a while, and then I just didn't after university. I don't print anything anymore. To no loss at all. It's either on my phone or I write things with a pen.

> I don't print anything anymore. I wish =/ Most of the documents I have to print are documents to be printed, signed, and scanned again (or sent by mail - not email). Some (including my employer) still don't accept anything else than signature on real paper somehow.. Luckily I have a "re-purpose device" at home (a young child with a huge appetite for drawings), but I'd still like to avoid this waste.

Last time I was asked to do this, I imported the PDF in Gimp, rotated the picture slightly, pasted my signature and converted to 1 bit. Looked enough like a scan.
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