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Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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Coup? The voters decided for Biden. There’s no “coup” happening.

The election hasn't been decided FYI and you are woefully uninformed. Lookup Dominion, Scorecard and Hammer or just search the internet for "2020 election fraud". Biden is illegal, illegitimate and will not be the President of the United States. If you want to understand why one indicator available to you is to look at network viewership. From Friday (Fox is usually top): MSNBC - 2.9m CNN - 4m Fox - 2.2m Fox has also…

Here to see how fast this gets flagged and/or downvoted >:)

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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Or if you expect a major bear market and you were going to liquidate your holdings anyway.

Rich people don’t liquidate due to the huge tax consequences. They would purchase derivatives to de-risk their portfolio.

US long term capital gains taxes are between 0 and 20% [1]. The popular definition of a bear market starts at 20%; if you are really bearish, you might "expect the S&P 500 to lose about two-thirds of its value over the completion of the current market cycle" [2].

Either way, giving up 20% of your gains beats losing between 20% and 66% of your entire holdings (initial investment + gains).

Regarding derivatives, they are (1) not free, (2) of limited duration [3] and (3) only as good as the counterparty [4]. They can make sense if you have good reasons to expect a short blip. The longer and deeper you think the downturn will be, the less useful they become.

[1] https://www.bankrate.com/investing/long-term-capital-gains-t...

[2] https://www.hussmanfunds.com/comment/mc200901/

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LEAPS_(finance)

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_(finance)#Counterparty_...

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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The election hasn't been decided FYI and you are woefully uninformed. Lookup Dominion, Scorecard and Hammer or just search the internet for "2020 election fraud". Biden is illegal, illegitimate and will not be the President of the United States. If you want to understand why one indicator available to you is to look at network viewership. From Friday (Fox is usually top): MSNBC - 2.9m CNN - 4m Fox - 2.2m Fox has also…

Here to see how fast this gets flagged and/or downvoted >:)

I'm shocked you didn't give me an upvote! I'm more interested to tell the truth on how fast pg deletes all his partisan tweets! One thing that's really disappointed me is that YCombinator hasn't come out and condemmed their alumni Michael Simon for gathering names of innocent people in his Trump Accountability Project.

P.S. Barr just authorised the DoJ to probe voting irregularities so it seems the calvary finally arrived.

P.P.S. Today is the anniversary of Kristalnacht and the Berlin Wall coming down. Funny how the world works.

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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I'm working in the US under a TN Visa at the moment as a Canadian citizen, and until this changes I'm never going to apply for a green card, and have been advising all my friends in similar situations to do the same. We choose to live & work here because SV is the Mecca of software development, but that could very easily change within our lifetimes, so tying ourselves down with this ridiculous obligation for life doe…

Did you mean you're not going to apply for citizenship? Does the global tax extend to green card holders who are not citizens?

> Does the global tax extend to green card holders who are not citizens?

Yep, see question 2:

> You have to file a U.S. income tax return while working and living abroad unless you abandon your green card holder status by filing Form I-407, with the U.S. Citizen & Immigration Service, or you renounce your U.S. citizenship under certain circumstances described in the expatriation tax provisions. See Publication 519, U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens, for more details.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/freq...

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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You're free to renounce the citizenship, it's not a lifetime obligation to pay taxes to the US.

You are free to renounce the citizenship, although it's not free (as in beer) to do so.

Exactly, the exit tax is no joke: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/expa...

Never becoming a citizen in the first place saves so much money and headache.

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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Elon Musk is funding a space program to put people on Mars via SpaceX. NASA has not improved rocket technology since the 1970's and SpaceX is on track to have a fully reusable rocket the size of the Saturn IV in the next few years and people to Mars not long after.

Except NASA funded and helped create SpaceX. Here are some of their contributions, > The injector at the heart of Merlin is of the pintle type that was first used in the Apollo Lunar Module landing engine (LMDE). > To meet that need, in 1994, just as Fastrac was getting underway, Majumdar began developing the Generalized Fluid System Simulation Program, or GFSSP, which was first used by the Agency’s analysts in Octob…

Not only did NASA help create and enable SpaceX, they were one of the primary early customers, with about half of SpaceX’s revenue coming from government contracts. [1] Apparently government is involved with all space entrepreneurship to some degree or another.

One thing that people also aren’t pointing out is that Space is considered a multi-trillion dollar market for whoever can access it due to the Wild West “if you can reach it, it’s yours” resource policies, which is why it attracts so much investment for long term projects. Many sectors that need investment in fundamental research don’t have those properties (untapped, unclaimed resources you can look to the sky and see), and therefore don’t attract the same kind of money.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/18/18683455/nasa-space-angel...

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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These bonds do fund growth and research, though. Why do you think the companies issue bonds in the first place? Same with governments: if you think buying government bonds is such a waste of money, why don’t you blame more the government for wasting it instead?

I do not wish to dismiss your arguments and concerns. But the argument that you’re making is a circular one. I have attempted to demonstrate how prima facie “corporate R&D” is often product development, process improvement, or other marginal improvements to preexisting technologies. For example, Apple invests in metallurgy, it has the world’s largest private metallurgical lab, but Apple isn’t seeking to create metama…

Many corporation do in fact perform basic research. Maybe not of the "particle accelerator" form that you ask for, and most likely less than what you'd want, but it does happen. I don't think a list of examples would change your opinion, so let's just leave it at that.

You are of course right that most of the benefits of new discoveries is of the form of externalities that don't get captured by the discoverer, or patent holder. Moreover, as you point out, we haven't seen too many fundamental, revolutionary discoveries as we've seen in first half of 20th century, to come from private labs recently. That's all true, but my response is that we haven't seen much of those recently from state-funded labs either. Science productivity per dollar is falling all around the globe, even as research spendings keep growing. Maybe there simply aren't too many science revolutions left to have?

If you don't agree with the above, and believe that there's a huge research opportunity with great ROI for society at large, why focus your ire on Apple? Why not blame the government that in your view is supposed to be funding that? Why not reduce hundreds of billions US government is spending on, say, healthcare, and instead spend that on fundamental research if it's as huge ROI as you believe it is? California has great history of publicly funded research institutions, why not just tax Apple more and spend the proceeds on fundamental research? The answer is, of course, that if California did actually tax Apple more, the resulting revenue would fund teacher's pensions and some other high speed rail to nowhere, and even less of the Apple's pile of cash would get used for research than it is when Apple is buying corporate bonds.

The truth is that fundamental research is hard, and spending more money would not necessarily bring better results. The incentive structure of doing science on public dime is already broken as it is, and there's no clear way to fix it. Focusing on that would bring bigger ROI than throwing some of Apple's cash pile into fire.

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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FATCA compliance issues won’t just get the IRS on your back. You also have to deal with the US department of treasury. The US treasury is not handicapped by regulation in the same way the IRS is. We’re talking extradition and jail time, not just having to pay back taxes. The Venn diagram of banks where you’d feel safe storing millions of dollars and that would also be willing to help you defraud the US Treasury are e…

> The Venn diagram of banks where you’d feel safe storing millions of dollars and that would also be willing to help you defraud the US Treasury are exceedingly small. It’s just not practical. You only need 1. However, the solution isn’t to move money from your account to a bank which then hides what’s going in from the US government. The solution is to make a terrible investment say buying land from Bob for 10 milli…

Your amounts are laughably low for the person who sparked this topic of discussion. Eric Schmidt has $14.2 billion dollars.

4 million in a stash account is nothing more than weekend vacation money.

Let's be honest, for most people hiding your money from the government, just means you can't access it anymore---which makes it essentially useless to you. For the current day mega-rich, they don't have any ties to the maffia, or other shady operations that would incentivize them having black-money funds.

Re-invest your money for low taxes, pay your taxes, and you will still be a billionaire next year, and won't have to every worry about black helicopters snatching you from your yacht.

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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It is partially owned by the public. All labor is partially owned by the public. Private IP makes corporations and people a lot of money. That money is taxed. That's how the government gets its share. The public-private partnership allows for researchers to claim most of the value of their labor, while the government can encourage areas of research which are in the national interest through grant funding. How much ta…

confiscate intellectual property if they fund it "Confiscate" is a very loaded word to use here. You don't say that I "confiscated the farmer's tomatoes" when I trade money for those tomatoes, or that an employer "confiscated the employee's code" when they traded that code for salary. How much tax money would be derived from the multitude of businesses that would arise if more government-funded IP was freely licensed…

Not much, since taking government money would mean forking over everything you invent to the government, and not many research groups would want to do it. It would be a poison pill: everything your lab does would come under scrutiny and potential lawsuit, how do you demonstrate that one thing was paid for with public funds but another thing wasn't?

In a response to describing researchers keeping IP they develop under grant as "straight up theft", I felt entitled to use a bit of inflammatory rhetoric of my own.

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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I'd strongly question the witch words 'heavily taxes'. The US federal government has some of the lowest income tax rates (both stated and effective) in the Western World [1]. And it's corporate tax rate is only slightly higher than the EU average [2], while in practice easily avoided [3] by large corporate entities like Google and Amazon. Sources: [1] https://taxfoundation.org/taxing-high-income-2019/ [2] https://tax…

But you have to add state taxes - in NYC and CA the state+federal is comparable to European taxes: and in Europe, those taxes include healthcare and academic education, which you pay for independently in the US.

How US unique is that they have tax haven states inside the country.
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