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Re: Show HN: PatchGirl – QA for Web Developers

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I would avoid gender-izing business or product names. There is a trend in the tech industry to remove gender and racial terms from our dictionary. examples: factory girl was renamed to "factory bot". https://github.com/thoughtbot/factory_bot/issues/921 github is renaming `master` git branches to `main` https://www.zdnet.com/article/github-to-replace-master-with-...

Bot is offensive as well, some people may identify as bots. Bots may have feelings too.

Re: Show HN: PatchGirl – QA for Web Developers

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I don't get the gender backlash here, personification has been a thing for a long time and there doesn't seem to be any malfeasance (intended or otherwise) here. It's not lewd, doesn't play to stereotypes, etc. To me, a basic litmus test is whether you could easily swap the gender without reworking anything. If you can't, it's probably offensive, if you can it's practically gender neutral (naming aside). It's not a c…

In the end we should all be using the genderless term, "dude" . Im a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, we are all dudes.

Re: Show HN: PatchGirl – QA for Web Developers

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I don't get the gender backlash here, personification has been a thing for a long time and there doesn't seem to be any malfeasance (intended or otherwise) here. It's not lewd, doesn't play to stereotypes, etc. To me, a basic litmus test is whether you could easily swap the gender without reworking anything. If you can't, it's probably offensive, if you can it's practically gender neutral (naming aside). It's not a c…

In the end we should all be using the genderless term, "dude" . Im a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, we are all dudes.

Dude, dude is gendered. Female version is dudette.

Re: Show HN: PatchGirl – QA for Web Developers

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I wonder what kind of backlash would be faced had the Nintendo product not existed and a console manufacturer proposed, in 2020, to name their handheld the "Game Boy".

Less than the above is for sure.

Don't be so sure. A name like Game Boy could be seen as assuming the gender of the gaming audience, and alienating females from playing games. It's stupid, I know, but that's current-year thinking for you.

Re: Show HN: PatchGirl – QA for Web Developers

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I don't get the gender backlash here, personification has been a thing for a long time and there doesn't seem to be any malfeasance (intended or otherwise) here. It's not lewd, doesn't play to stereotypes, etc. To me, a basic litmus test is whether you could easily swap the gender without reworking anything. If you can't, it's probably offensive, if you can it's practically gender neutral (naming aside). It's not a c…

> doesn't play to stereotypes

The stereotype that QA is 'women's work' is harming the industry.

Re: Show HN: PatchGirl – QA for Web Developers

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Author here! Never realized that was why factory-girl changed its name... That's interesting thank you! PatchGirl was initially only a rest client so it was just a stupid pun (because of postman). But it stick and now I like the name :-P

Shouldn’t you have gone with “PatchWoman” if you were playing off of “PostMan”?

Clearly stretching to find something offensive here imo.

Girl just sounds better.

Re: Show HN: PatchGirl – QA for Web Developers

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I don't get the gender backlash here, personification has been a thing for a long time and there doesn't seem to be any malfeasance (intended or otherwise) here. It's not lewd, doesn't play to stereotypes, etc. To me, a basic litmus test is whether you could easily swap the gender without reworking anything. If you can't, it's probably offensive, if you can it's practically gender neutral (naming aside). It's not a c…

> doesn't play to stereotypes The stereotype that QA is 'women's work' is harming the industry.

Can you point me to any examples of that stereotype? Historical employment figures, long form discussions, etc? I've genuinely never heard of that one, and considering the dominant solution in this space is Postman an alternative, female gendered solution could be argued as inclusive.

Re: Show HN: PatchGirl – QA for Web Developers

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The two genders people backlashed against the unlimited genders and there was then a war between them - the unlimited genders want references to the two genders to be removed as they seem to promote the viewpoint that two genders exist and not unlimited. Companies and powerful organizations are wary of the unlimited genders people as there is a worry that they may control enough economic power to make things unpleasa…

If somebody wants to be a girl or a boy, or some creator wants to call their creation a boy or a girl - what's wrong with either? Again, we're spending a tremendous amount of energy and attention on things that future generations will laugh at. This is no similar than the billions of people who can't learn to wear a face mask properly. We're the laughing stock of the future. Should I refer to my boy or girl to they t…

The solution is to not comment on such issues and downvote and potentially flag (when appropriate) people that spend all their time writing about that instead of things that actually matter.

Re: Show HN: PatchGirl – QA for Web Developers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If somebody wants to be a girl or a boy, or some creator wants to call their creation a boy or a girl - what's wrong with either? Again, we're spending a tremendous amount of energy and attention on things that future generations will laugh at. This is no similar than the billions of people who can't learn to wear a face mask properly. We're the laughing stock of the future. Should I refer to my boy or girl to they t…

The solution is to not comment on such issues and downvote and potentially flag (when appropriate) people that spend all their time writing about that instead of things that actually matter.

I don't believe in censorship. I only upvote.
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