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McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu

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Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu

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> Mcsomething it had to be. I would have gone with "McMiracle Burger" (as a riff on "Impossible Burger").

McPossible Burger would have worked.

If they wanted to get sued for trademark infringement.

(McDonalds is working with Beyond Meat, one of Impossible Foods' largest competitors, for their plant-based meat substitutes; deriving their product name from a competitor's product is almost certainly a bad idea.)

Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu

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I think it’ll be a big win when plant-based burgers are cheaper than animal based burgers. From a raw ingredients standpoint plant based food should almost always be cheaper than animal based food because the costs associated with farming plants is lower than the costs associated with farming animals. Hopefully, with McDonald’s scale and with their vertical integration they can make affordable, tasty, and comparably…

Not so fast with the health talk. Vegetable oils are most likely carcinogenic, amid other health issues (GI, heart) [0]. Red meat is not [1] Further, these fake meats, Impossible Burger namely, have been linked to kidney failure in mice studies [2] (one commissioned by the Impossible Foods manufacturer). In particular: " * A rat feeding study commissioned by the manufacturer Impossible Foods found that rats fed SLH […

Yes, oils are pretty bad for you but Red meat is a class 2 carcinogen. So, neither are good for you.

Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu

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The price of animal agriculture products is artificially lowered by direct subsidy, price controls, and indirectly lowered by the unaccounted ecological costs. It is largely a matter of policy rather than a reflection of market forces. On a level playing field, the cost competitiveness is there. For instance, in New Zealand, one of the largest dairy export markets, I can buy a vegan pizza for the same price. In fact,…

What is the appeal of a vegan pizza? Is it even pizza without cheese?

One go to is just make sure everything else is plant based or vegan (depending) and just order without cheese. Pizza without cheese sounds odd as a pretext, but does work in practice. It’s also a lot lighter.

Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu

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post #109

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The price of animal agriculture products is artificially lowered by direct subsidy, price controls, and indirectly lowered by the unaccounted ecological costs. It is largely a matter of policy rather than a reflection of market forces. On a level playing field, the cost competitiveness is there. For instance, in New Zealand, one of the largest dairy export markets, I can buy a vegan pizza for the same price. In fact,…

What is the appeal of a vegan pizza? Is it even pizza without cheese?

Pesto and tomatoes on (circular) bread can be quite delicious...

It's not the same food as "pizza" in my humble estimation, but it's still very good.

Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu

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There are a few groups that are making "real" vegan cheese, ie modifying e-coli or yeast to produce the same milk proteins, and then going through the cheese making process. One such is Real Vegan Cheese [ https://realvegancheese.org/ ].

Godspeed to the marketing team that has to go to market with "modified e-coli".

The E in E Coli stands for "Escherichia". Which sounds like a kind of Queso. Maybe they can make it work.

Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu

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post #109

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The price of animal agriculture products is artificially lowered by direct subsidy, price controls, and indirectly lowered by the unaccounted ecological costs. It is largely a matter of policy rather than a reflection of market forces. On a level playing field, the cost competitiveness is there. For instance, in New Zealand, one of the largest dairy export markets, I can buy a vegan pizza for the same price. In fact,…

What is the appeal of a vegan pizza? Is it even pizza without cheese?

I’ve been vegan for about 15 years..

I love Daiya cheese for pizzas and it melts well too.

There are also a number of specialty cheeses that are great.

I think if you live in a decent sized city you can find great vegan pizza / supplies.

Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu

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What is the appeal of a vegan pizza? Is it even pizza without cheese?

Pesto and tomatoes on (circular) bread can be quite delicious... It's not the same food as "pizza" in my humble estimation, but it's still very good.

Pesto isn't vegan, it's got parmesan cheese in it.

Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu

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"McPlant" is a fairly horrible sounding burger! Burger King here in NZ have plant-based burgers called the Rebel Whopper which is quite a catchy name. Technically, it can't be classified as vegetarian though, because it's cooked on the same grill as the beef burgers. Not sure if the McPlant will be cooked on different grills or not?

What on earth? Why would that matter? Does somebody lose their vegan powers if a particle of fat gets into their burger?

No vegan diet, no vegan power. Those are the vegan police rules - https://scottpilgrim.fandom.com/wiki/Vegan_Police
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