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Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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Why do you think Eric has problems traveling?

Americans are currently blocked from travel to many countries, European included, due to the bungling of their Covid 19 response.

For what it's worth, the US is outperforming several EU member states with fewer deaths per population.

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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> It's not moral behavior. Getting a second citizenship?

Buying one. Citizenship is something that ought to be earned and given to people who show that they want to live in and contribute to a country. People like Schmidt purchase themselves a tax excemption or freedom of movement in a world where ordinary people right now lose their jobs and are locked into their country.

Is it really so different from the "EB-5" immigrant investor visa, which gives a citizenship path to foreigners who invest at least $1.8M in the US?

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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The act is not in question...its the motives that are.

Well, the article says it's unknown why, but even speculating what nefarious things could you do with it? Cyprus is part of the EU.

Yeah, it's a real mystery.

https://www.globalcitizensolutions.com/cyprus-tax-for-non-re...

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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He'll have to renounce his US citizenship, which means he would never again be able to set foot in the US (even for "connecting flights").

wait. if you renounce your citizenship you are denied entry? wouldn't he be able to just travel to the US under the same rules as any other Cypriot citizen?

None of what the parent said is correct. You would be treated like any other citizen of Cyprus if you revoked your US citizenship. Besides that, Schmidt is part of the Davos zillionaire elite, the US isn't going to deny him access.

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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Why do people think this is a "bad thing"? It's no different than buying an expensive home anywhere in the world, except it comes with a citizenship. I doubt he can use the favorable taxation - he would have to renounce his US citizenship for that.

How different is this from oligarchs using private jets to escape lockdowns?

The same way me eating a chicken liver is different from Hannibal Lecter eating your liver.

Yes, we're both eating a liver but we're not the same kind of person.

Oligarchs travel, just like you and me. That's not what makes them oligarchs.

And where exactly do they travel that is not accessible to you and me?

I'm pretty sure that when governments ban air travel, they also ban private jet travel.

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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Huh, why not? If not for people taking advantage of "the system", "the system" would not exist. I mean; here we have a guy that has taken all the advantage of all the benefits a developed industrial country has to offer and then in turn does everything in his power to give back as little as possible. Hell yeah I'm going to blame him. It's not moral behavior. I don't care whether it is legal or not, he's behaving like…

> that has taken all the advantage of all the benefits a developed industrial country has to offer a. He has also given a lot more back to the said country. than he has taken from it, IMO. Imagine what life would be like without Google. b. Google is a global company, not just a US company c. I don't believe in the notion of nations or citizenship and don't blame him if he doesn't either and is switching citizenships…

You mean, you consider the creation of abusive monopolist as something positive?

Interesting point of view!

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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If this is indeed for a tax dodge, what's funny is that the US Government helped fund Google. Or, more accurately, they funded the research into the seemingly esoteric problem that became Google; > In 1995, one of the first and most promising MDDS grants went to a computer-science research team at Stanford University with a decade-long history of working with NSF and DARPA grants. The primary objective of this grant…

Mariana Mazzucato's book "The Entrepreneurial State" is a good read on the matter of public funding for innovation:

https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781610396134

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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Buying one. Citizenship is something that ought to be earned and given to people who show that they want to live in and contribute to a country. People like Schmidt purchase themselves a tax excemption or freedom of movement in a world where ordinary people right now lose their jobs and are locked into their country.

American citizens living and working abroad still must pay taxes to the US Government. As far as I am aware, the US is the only country in the world with this requirement. There is a reason the FBAR requirement is often called the "fubar" requirement.

I'm working in the US under a TN Visa at the moment as a Canadian citizen, and until this changes I'm never going to apply for a green card, and have been advising all my friends in similar situations to do the same.

We choose to live & work here because SV is the Mecca of software development, but that could very easily change within our lifetimes, so tying ourselves down with this ridiculous obligation for life doesn't make any sense in the long term.

Re: Eric Schmidt has applied to become a citizen of Cyprus

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Buying one. Citizenship is something that ought to be earned and given to people who show that they want to live in and contribute to a country. People like Schmidt purchase themselves a tax excemption or freedom of movement in a world where ordinary people right now lose their jobs and are locked into their country.

American citizens living and working abroad still must pay taxes to the US Government. As far as I am aware, the US is the only country in the world with this requirement. There is a reason the FBAR requirement is often called the "fubar" requirement.

Eritrea aswell.
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