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Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Post by squarefoot »

comicjk wrote: post #472
squarefoot wrote: post #435

I'm currently recovering from Covid-19 and hopefully won't need it, however this line sounds a bit strange: "It uses a completely experimental approach - that involves injecting part of the virus's genetic code - in order to train the immune system." I did my flu (not Covid) vaccine shot about 3 weeks ago, just before catching the nastier one, and according to the doctors it works exactly that way, although this one…

What they mean is that instead of injecting viral proteins or deactivated virus (as in a flu vaccine), they are injecting mRNA which causes your own cells to make a section of viral protein, which then triggers a strong immune response. This COVID vaccine will be the first major mRNA vaccine. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2770485

Thanks for the correction and good news! Would the pandemic situation ease the access to it for everyone, or market laws (high prices) will prevail as usual?

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Post by throwaway2245 »

abeppu wrote: post #393
bufferoverflow wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we can eradicate it by contact tracing. With 90% efficiency it will be extremely tough for the virus to spread. For any new cases you simply test everyone in the vicinity of the infected person. But I don't think even that will be necessary. 90% efficiency reduces R so much, it will probably die out on its own. The real problem is mutations that are not covered by the vaccine. If it mutates as efficiently as…

I think we can control it well with a vaccine and contact tracing. But though this is not my area, I've heard experts say that "eradication" is unlikely, in that we've still only actually eradicated one human viral disease. But if covid-19 was well enough controlled that most of us wouldn't come across an infected person in normal life, or need to think about it for months or years at a time ... I think that's good e…

>we've still only actually eradicated one human viral disease

SARS-CoV-1 was eradicated.

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Post by bitcurious »

redisman wrote: post #728
mandeepj wrote: post #683

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Right. But, I think it's double-sided. Would they started the research without US govt's contract of almost $2B to buy their vaccine? https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta...

Of course yes. Every person on earth will want this vaccine eventually. If the US wants to play games, they have tens of billions of units to sell elsewhere.

At this point this is obvious, but it took the pandemic getting out of hand to create the demand. When SARS hit many companies invested in vaccines and demand vanished. The purpose of the government guaranteed buy is to move up the timeline of when R&D starts.

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Post by djrogers »

thatwasunusual wrote: post #479
benlumen wrote: post #149

I'm feeling a deep-seated wave of relief that I never thought possible. Like waking up from a year-long nightmare. Thank God.

> Thank God. God also gave us this virus, if we stick to the religious logic.

Actually, no - if one follows the 'religious logic' as you call it, we live in a Fallen World under the dominion of Principalities and Power of Darkness. It is from there that the virus came.

The 'God will smite thee' beliefs largely came about as a form of control over people, and do not line up with New Testament biblical teaching.

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Post by djrogers »

hajile wrote: post #685
grecy wrote: post #613

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Did god put warning labels on things we should and shouldn't eat? How do I use God's wisdom to decide if if a certain pig is "safe" to eat or not?

If you go by the Koran or Bible, pork is forbidden. If you go by the Bible, most (if not all) bush meat would also be forbidden.

> If you go by the Koran or Bible, pork is forbidden.

Correction - if you go by the Old Testament, pork is forbidden.

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Post by thehappypm »

6d6b73 wrote: post #492

Tin-foil hat ON mode enabled: - not released before the elections on purpose - released right before Trump's team is about to try and change the results with their legal challenges Market will go up like crazy. People in the known will sell their stocks. Big crash on Thursday/Friday. Of course just speculating, but if I was part of the NWO that what I would do :)

I think that they may have not released right before the election, but that's kind of the right thing to do. You shouldn't jolt voters with news like this, especially if there's no medical/public health benefit to doing so. That's exactly what Comey did in 2016 and it contributed to people being worried about voting for HRC.

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Post by j2bax »

grecy wrote: post #613
InterMilan wrote: post #592

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I thought it was bush meat. So human decided to eat something that they shouldn't. Geniuinly asking.

Did god put warning labels on things we should and shouldn't eat? How do I use God's wisdom to decide if if a certain pig is "safe" to eat or not?

Since you asked!

Deuteronomy 14:3-20

3 “You shall not eat any abomination. 4 These are the animals you may eat: the ox, the sheep, the goat, 5 the deer, the gazelle, the roebuck, the wild goat, the ibex,[a] the antelope, and the mountain sheep. 6 Every animal that parts the hoof and has the hoof cloven in two and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. 7 Yet of those that chew the cud or have the hoof cloven you shall not eat these: the camel, the hare, and the rock badger, because they chew the cud but do not part the hoof, are unclean for you. 8 And the pig, because it parts the hoof but does not chew the cud, is unclean for you. Their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch.

9 “Of all that are in the waters you may eat these: whatever has fins and scales you may eat. 10 And whatever does not have fins and scales you shall not eat; it is unclean for you.

11 “You may eat all clean birds. 12 But these are the ones that you shall not eat: the eagle,[b] the bearded vulture, the black vulture, 13 the kite, the falcon of any kind; 14 every raven of any kind; 15 the ostrich, the nighthawk, the sea gull, the hawk of any kind; 16 the little owl and the short-eared owl, the barn owl 17 and the tawny owl, the carrion vulture and the cormorant, 18 the stork, the heron of any kind; the hoopoe and the bat. 19 And all winged insects are unclean for you; they shall not be eaten. 20 All clean winged things you may eat.

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Post by thehappypm »

The_rationalist wrote: post #489

So what does being injected an mRNA vaccine means ? My DNA will be permanently altered and permanently create fake covid proteins ? will this add overhead to my biological processes, am I becoming less optimized ? Will my body consume more sugar ? will those generated proteins accelerate my ageing ? What could go wrong ? (I don't think anything will go wrong but what does the science says ?)

All of the above, according to my aunt Mary-Alice on Facebook.

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Post by bluGill »

zzbzq wrote: post #502
ploika wrote: post #263

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Since you asked, also the pension funds of almost everyone you know.

retirement accounts--pensions are legacy technology

Which is too bad. I'd rather have a pension and be assured of my income for however long I live than have to figure out how much to leave in my account for a future that I might not live to be old enough to enjoy.
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