Why Rust Is the Future of Game Development
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Why Rust Is the Future of Game Development
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Re: Why Rust Is the Future of Game Development
#2> Way back around 2010, Mozilla was frustrated by the state of development in Firefox, a massive software project written mostly in C++. Despite best practices
> Even so, manual memory manipulation is easy to get wrong,
Even predating C++11, you should not have been doing manual memory management. I don’t think Mozilla was following best practices. IIRC, there were pointers everywhere. Even before C++11 best practices for C++ were to try for value semantics as much as possible. Mozilla code base was more like C with Classes than best practice C++.
Re: Why Rust Is the Future of Game Development
#3> Way back around 2010, Mozilla was frustrated by the state of development in Firefox, a massive software project written mostly in C++. Despite best practices > Even so, manual memory manipulation is easy to get wrong, Even predating C++11, you should not have been doing manual memory management. I don’t think Mozilla was following best practices. IIRC, there were pointers everywhere. Even before C++11 best practice…
I think the criticism, “But you were writing C++ wrong” falls more than a little flat. The Firefox codebase may be old, but even with teams of good, experienced C++ programmers I still see memory errors of the type that Rust is designed to prevent.
Anyway, you are unlikely to avoid pointers completely in a good C++ codebase. Value semantics are very often the wrong semantics for the code you are trying to write. You can end up with dangling references as easily as you can end up with dangling pointers. If you use std::shared_ptr everywhere, then what you have is a slow & inefficient GC.
Re: Why Rust Is the Future of Game Development
#4Let me tell you that most C++ game dev never heard of Rust, so imagine how long it's going to take for Rust to be something usable in that domain?
Right now in the real world of AAA games it is nowhere, it's not even a consideration so calling it "Rust Is the Future of Game Development" right ...
For those who don't work in games, the tech there move very slowly, it's not your typical SV "let's use the latest fun and cutting edge tech".
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#5...or jai :)
Re: Why Rust Is the Future of Game Development
#6Let me tell you that most C++ game dev never heard of Rust, so imagine how long it's going to take for Rust to be something usable in that domain? Right now in the real world of AAA games it is nowhere, it's not even a consideration so calling it "Rust Is the Future of Game Development" right ... For those who don't work in games, the tech there move very slowly, it's not your typical SV "let's use the latest fun and…
That's a great argument on why it is not present but the future instead.
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#7Let me tell you that most C++ game dev never heard of Rust, so imagine how long it's going to take for Rust to be something usable in that domain? Right now in the real world of AAA games it is nowhere, it's not even a consideration so calling it "Rust Is the Future of Game Development" right ... For those who don't work in games, the tech there move very slowly, it's not your typical SV "let's use the latest fun and…
That's a great argument on why it is not present but the future instead.
And also a great opportunity!
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#8What a humorous title. Looking forward to the Rust Evangelism Strikeforce presence in this thread.
Anyway, just say they don’t downvote and flag me into oblivion: Rust good c++ bad
Re: Why Rust Is the Future of Game Development
#9Let me tell you that the future of game development is in developing games, and any particular language has nothing to do with it.
Does anyone care what language were any particular games that keep being replayed or remembered fondly?
No. Never.
Re: Why Rust Is the Future of Game Development
#10Let me tell you that most C++ game dev never heard of Rust, so imagine how long it's going to take for Rust to be something usable in that domain? Right now in the real world of AAA games it is nowhere, it's not even a consideration so calling it "Rust Is the Future of Game Development" right ... For those who don't work in games, the tech there move very slowly, it's not your typical SV "let's use the latest fun and…
Probably because what AAA game developers actually use is strictly Visual Studio, not C++.
Whatever is first class for GUI users on Windows in China and Ukraine is going to impact AAA game development far more than any non-GUI technology.
It's not really about tooling. I'm not saying tools. Just Visual Studio. Visual Studio decides what will appear.