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Ask HN: Cheap Bulk Storage?

#1
2 years ago, BackBlaze released specs for their storage pod, which is basically huge tract of drives wired together.

It's not fast, but it's cheap, and it's great for bulk-archiving documents.

Now it's 2011- Is there a better way of solving this problem? S3 is crazy expensive for massive (100+TB) archiving, and I'd rather go one-step above building my own system using custom frames and components.

Are there any web-services which offer bulk storage at somewhat reasonable rates? Are there off-the-shelf cases which offer 50+ HDs for a non-insane price?

Re: Ask HN: Cheap Bulk Storage?

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Supermicro has a 45-bay JBOD that should be under 10 cents/GB populated: http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/?chs=847 HP has a 70-bay JBOD that works out to under 30 cents/GB: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/12169-304616-3...

That looks cool.

Where did you get the pricing from, to generate your cost estimates (ie. the 10/30c/gig)?

Re: Ask HN: Cheap Bulk Storage?

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Supermicro has a 45-bay JBOD that should be under 10 cents/GB populated: http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/?chs=847 HP has a 70-bay JBOD that works out to under 30 cents/GB: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/12169-304616-3...

That looks cool. Where did you get the pricing from, to generate your cost estimates (ie. the 10/30c/gig)?

If you throw the serial number into google, you get a few resellers-

http://www.google.com/search?q=SC847E16-RJBOD1&ie=utf-8&...

2K - Case + Backplanes 1K - CPU, MB, RAM 3.3K - 45 1TB drives at 75 ea --

6.6K - 45TB RAID0 If I want it to be even somewhat sane, I'd add every 4th drive as spare/parity, which drops to 33G

$6600 / 35TB gives $.19/GB

That's higher than the .12 from the 2 year old BackBlaze box, but not much.

If instead we go with the $179 3TB WD drives, we can get slightly better than the pod pricing.

($179 * 45) / (45 * 3TB * .75) in dollars per gigabyte = $.08/GB

Re: Ask HN: Cheap Bulk Storage?

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post #2

Supermicro has a 45-bay JBOD that should be under 10 cents/GB populated: http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/?chs=847 HP has a 70-bay JBOD that works out to under 30 cents/GB: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/12169-304616-3...

The Supermicro case is pretty awesome. It looks like it might be a great option- It's almost exactly what I was looking for.. Half a step above custom frames. Thanks!

It doesn't feel like 2 years worth of progress, though- The numbers are pretty much still where they were 2 years ago ;)

Thanks Again.

Re: Ask HN: Cheap Bulk Storage?

#9
I'm remember being fairly skeptical of the Backblaze storage pods. What happens when you have a power loss situation? What happens when a drive dies? Seems like it would be pretty tough to maintain and service those custom pods with the unnecessarily expensive non-redundant custom power supplies. I'm going to second the Supermicro case recommendation made by wmf.

Re: Ask HN: Cheap Bulk Storage?

#10
I'm surprised there aren't any services selling raw storage space. i.e. no RAID or other redundancy, no doubling as a static web-server, just a bunch of disks.

So people (myself included) buy physical HDDs for local backup -- simply because every online alternative jacks up the price by maintaining 3+ copies and keeping everything permanently online.

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