I wonder if this will be valid for the mutated coronavirus recently found the Denmark's minks (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24990724)
If there are several variations of coronavirus, how effective a vaccine will be ?
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#342Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wake up long time ago when I realized the virus is not as dangerous as the media reported it. You too should wake up right now and live your life. Stop being afraid.
Three of my dead family members (edit for clarity: not my immediate nuclear family, but people I'm still close to) don't feel the same way (nor do those who were impacted by the hundreds of thousands of excess deaths in the US), but I'm glad you've found this whole thing to be overblown.
I didn't say there won't be any people dead due to virus. Many people too die due to flu virus.
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#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
Trust. Russia and China lie through their teeth on everything and anything. It's irrelevant whether or not they are lying in this particular instance: they cannot be trusted.
As if "the West" and the US in particular don't lie left and right if it helps to promote their agenda. It's a simple matter of who aligns with whom.
So "the Earth is round" and "the Earth is flat" is a simple matter of who aligns with whom too?
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#344I'm feeling a deep-seated wave of relief that I never thought possible. Like waking up from a year-long nightmare. Thank God.
I wake up long time ago when I realized the virus is not as dangerous as the media reported it. You too should wake up right now and live your life. Stop being afraid.
Who said I was afraid? I'm literally locked in my house in England, and all of the pubs are shut, and I'm banned from hanging out with my friends or my family. I want all that to end. I want to get back to seeing the world and going to festivals and for everyone to be able to do the same. I want my elderly grandmother to be able to see us again without worry. It's nothing to do with me being afraid.
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#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
The latest data (preprint, not peer reviewed etc etc) mention memory B and T cells up to 8 months after recovery from the illness. This means that an immunity of one year is probably likely. This would be probably enough to quench the spread, but not to eradicate the virus.
I think we can eradicate it by contact tracing. With 90% efficiency it will be extremely tough for the virus to spread. For any new cases you simply test everyone in the vicinity of the infected person. But I don't think even that will be necessary. 90% efficiency reduces R so much, it will probably die out on its own. The real problem is mutations that are not covered by the vaccine. If it mutates as efficiently as…
If you get the vaccine then get infected I wonder for how long you will be spreading it to others while you don't show any signs of virus.
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#346Earlier quoted context omitted.
The latest data (preprint, not peer reviewed etc etc) mention memory B and T cells up to 8 months after recovery from the illness. This means that an immunity of one year is probably likely. This would be probably enough to quench the spread, but not to eradicate the virus.
I think we can eradicate it by contact tracing. With 90% efficiency it will be extremely tough for the virus to spread. For any new cases you simply test everyone in the vicinity of the infected person. But I don't think even that will be necessary. 90% efficiency reduces R so much, it will probably die out on its own. The real problem is mutations that are not covered by the vaccine. If it mutates as efficiently as…
Measles et al never died out, despite very aggressive, and for years successful vaccination programmes (thank you anti-vaccesrs for messing that up).
But even if we all need to get vaccinated once a year, for a 90% immunity, that sounds manageable. So good news, if it all holds up.
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#347I wonder if the people scared of permanent damage caused by Covid (for which there is no evidence) will be equally scared of the permanent damage caused by this experimental vaccine (for which there is no evidence either).
Previous polling in the US showed only 70% of people would want a vaccine as soon as it comes available. And it keeps going down as time goes on. https://news.gallup.com/poll/321839/readiness-covid-vaccine-...
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#348Good: + ~90% of individuals achieve immunity. + no significant side-effects. Not so good: - two doses needed, 3 weeks apart, immunity after one month from first dose. Slow rollout. - -80C storage and transport needed. Challenging, but doable in developed countries, but still may slow down mass rollout. Not feasible in many developing countries. I still wonder about long-term immunity. Anyone can share any insight?
+ ~90% of individuals achieve immunity It could also refer to 90% reduced severity. A 60% vaccine can reduce the severity of the illness by 40% so only 40% of the expected number end up in hospital.
The first line of the article states:
"The first effective coronavirus vaccine can prevent more than 90% of people from getting Covid-19, a preliminary analysis shows."
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#349Usually comments on BBC articles are pretty horrible. However, I'm very pleased to see that the top comment on that article is: "This is the power of science. Step aside celebrities- these people are who should be famous. " Edit: I should also point out that I am, of course, in complete agreement
I agree that these people should be lauded for their achievements, but nowadays fame comes at the expense of 24h/day scrutiny of everything they ever done or did or said, which just fuels the fire of all those Cardinal Richelieus who are hell-bent on persecuting what they perceive as threats and reactionaries. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.
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#350Super neat timing
Pretty much. After Biden was announced as the winner, people were posting pictures on conservative subreddits showing thousands of people celebrating in the streets, and they said "It sucks that Biden won, but at least covid is over".