Super neat timing
Pfizer stated it's intention to delay release of findings until after the election. This is not a surprise.
Do you have a source for this? I am curious if this is true.
Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
321–330 of 1001 posts
Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
The latest data (preprint, not peer reviewed etc etc) mention memory B and T cells up to 8 months after recovery from the illness. This means that an immunity of one year is probably likely. This would be probably enough to quench the spread, but not to eradicate the virus.
I think we can eradicate it by contact tracing. With 90% efficiency it will be extremely tough for the virus to spread. For any new cases you simply test everyone in the vicinity of the infected person. But I don't think even that will be necessary. 90% efficiency reduces R so much, it will probably die out on its own. The real problem is mutations that are not covered by the vaccine. If it mutates as efficiently as…
Yup. But we do need the government to step in and do this (contact tracing etc.). Hopefully, with the new administration...
Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's just a bunch of rich people in the end. The election is over. You can stop peddling bs. Thus far in 2020, Gallup finds 55% of Americans reporting that they own stock, based on polls conducted in March and April. This is identical to the average 55% recorded in 2019 and similar to the average of 54% Gallup has measured since 2010.
55% of Americans may report that they own stock, but the top 10% own 88% of all stocks https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distr...
What kind of an argument is that?
Just because somebody owns more stocks than you do doesn't make their price development less relevant to you.
Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
#324Good: + ~90% of individuals achieve immunity. + no significant side-effects. Not so good: - two doses needed, 3 weeks apart, immunity after one month from first dose. Slow rollout. - -80C storage and transport needed. Challenging, but doable in developed countries, but still may slow down mass rollout. Not feasible in many developing countries. I still wonder about long-term immunity. Anyone can share any insight?
+ ~90% of individuals achieve immunity It could also refer to 90% reduced severity. A 60% vaccine can reduce the severity of the illness by 40% so only 40% of the expected number end up in hospital.
I thought it was that 90% show production of antibodies.
Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's just a bunch of rich people in the end. The election is over. You can stop peddling bs. Thus far in 2020, Gallup finds 55% of Americans reporting that they own stock, based on polls conducted in March and April. This is identical to the average 55% recorded in 2019 and similar to the average of 54% Gallup has measured since 2010.
55% of Americans may report that they own stock, but the top 10% own 88% of all stocks https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distr...
what's your point? owning .0001% of something is still owning something
Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
#326Seems like a good time to buy shares in whoever manufactures industrial sized extra cold freezers.
Seems like a good time to own shares in literally anything. The DJI is going to open up 1,500 points at least.
Seems like yesterday was a good time to buy shares. Now it's not so clear!
Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
The RNA is read by human cells and the spike protein antigen is created by human cells; it’s not particularly viral RNA.
Okay pretty terrifying! How long does this random RNA stay in your cells?
Until your body kills the infected cells. Viruses stick themselves into your cells all over the place. It's how you get the common cold. Approximately 8% of your DNA is made of past viruses that humans and their ancestors caught.
Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
#328I'm feeling a deep-seated wave of relief that I never thought possible. Like waking up from a year-long nightmare. Thank God.
I wake up long time ago when I realized the virus is not as dangerous as the media reported it. You too should wake up right now and live your life. Stop being afraid.
How dangerous did you assess it to be?
Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
#329Fascinating logistics problem here - distributing a vaccine that needs to be stored at -80C. This is significantly colder than the standard cold logistics chain. I believe Pfizer are working on a special transport box that can, unpowered, stay at the right temperature for a week as long as the box is only opened for something like 1 minute a day. That's a good thing, but with a capacity of I believe 10k vaccine doses…
Great video about this exact topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byW1GExQB84
Skip to 3:20 if you don't want to hear a few minutes about why COVID is a big problem.
Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
Screw the media for pushing this and lockdown as the only possible solution. This will still take ages to be rolled out.
No, it won't. they are projecting 50 million doses to be ready in 2020 and 1.1 billion next year. That means that mom and dad and grandma are likely to get it within the next few months and that by mid next year, you'll probably have access to it if you are a healthy thirty year old.
Those 1.1 billion doses are not for the US alone. The vaccine was actually developed by Biontech in Germany before Pfizer was involved. Pfizer is the partner to scale up the studies and production. But you can assume that those doses are not US only. And then I'd doubt that a healthy 30 year old will get it in summer of 2021.